Member Profile - Boostaddict

[Newbie GT]

Or simply a C63 and be done with it haha

There is that option too.

My point however is that high powered modified cars don't make for good reliable daily drivers.

A car like a lib with a 300awkw tune and 400kw build would not be a pleasant drive in traffic.

Looks nice Bruce ! A liberty with decent power with minimal mods is a hoot to drive IMO.

C63 at the wheels from actory is ?? Same across all c63s from 2009?

[bass_straitener]

Or simply a C63 and be done with it haha

There is that option too.

My point however is that high powered modified cars don't make for good reliable daily drivers.

A car like a lib with a 300awkw tune and 400kw build would not be a pleasant drive in traffic.

Looks nice Bruce ! A liberty with decent power with minimal mods is a hoot to drive IMO.

C63 at the wheels from actory is ?? Same across all c63s from 2009?

I agree a liberty with decent power is a hoot to drive. I had one with ultimately I got 214kws and it was great with all the suspension mods etc.

But with little things going wrong such as OCV's, cam gears, popping off hoses, knocking Bilsteins, shagged LCAs, drivetrain lash, the list goes on....

Then there was the tuning, till I got to MSR, and the logging effort made ownership a bit of a chore to keep it all functioning in top running condition.

With a busy work and family life it just became too much for ME..

The C63 from 2009 was available in a few different specs. I have one with the performance pack with forged internal from the SLS, the auto MCT is rated at 800HP and the car produces 358kws via an AMG modified tune. Also comes with a AMG factory LSD to get power down via 265 rear rubber. On a dyno they produce 309-315kws at the wheels.

I'm a bit of a realist with some of this stuff. If anyone asks me these days about what to do to the lib, I generally tell them to get the suspension sorted, dump pipe and tune and enjoy the car. Cosmetics mods are cool too. But these big power builds on the EJ25 engines are a big waste of money IMHO.

[Boostaddict]

I get the big power=no reliability.

But im not using the 300kw atw 90% of the time. Its lucky to get a squirt or 2 every time i drive, excluding when i go out with the boys. But most of the time the kids are in the car and i putt putt around.

So my question is that 90% of the time the car is using 100kw atw. So im talking about that being the reliability factor. Cruise with the kids and have a thrash by myself.

Surely ANY car could handle that. .

Also Bruce & Newbie

You CANT compare a fucking C63 AMG to my Liberty at all.

You paid 100k +++ for your car. I paid $30. Yes i have spent a little more now.

But if i was to spend up to $100k i WOULD have reliabilty and stack loads of power and grip

[Boostaddict]

Hate to sounds like a dick, but any engine builder with any big power experience shouldn’t using a block that has been previously sleeved by someone else and they have no real idea of the what was done.

Seems to me like the block might have been shelved for a reason………. My guess is it was out of spec after the coin was spent setting the selves, a common issue for the someone which has little experience with EJ motors.

Even if the block was checked, I highly doubt it was checked correctly, i.e. x-rayed, a metrology report at operational temp…. a simple pressure test is a waste of time.

Best beat would be to get your old block fixed and fitted, then speak to the right people regarding your next build if that is still an option.

I got warned a few times about this block and this exact situation.!!

So i was well aware that this could POSSIBLY go wrong.

Everything was checked and squared up. And it didnt go and get x rays done on it. But i know he tested the metal , in the same what he tested the heads "hardness" or something.

Looking back now, i cut corners where i shouldnt have and im paying for it again.

But also think, my car is making 220kw atw Max at 14-15psi at peak power.

I would have thought the block would have done a shit load better then that.

[dazzz168]

Have u taken into consideration a stock block running a VF52 and tuned for 98 and E85? 98 for normal daily use and E85 for when u want to go crazy. The benefits would be as a daily on 98, it would be good on fuel and reliable... While on E85, it will still be reliable but bucket loads of powah, enough to easily run in the 12s.

I'm all for big power and reading about big builds, but the costs associated is a big pit.

Just my 2cents.

[bass_straitener]

Also Bruce & Newbie

You CANT compare a fucking C63 AMG to my Liberty at all.

You paid 100k +++ for your car. I paid $30. Yes i have spent a little more now.

But if i was to spend up to $100k i WOULD have reliabilty and stack loads of power and grip

Sorry Dan, I wasn't suggesting you need a C63 to effectively achieve your goals, merely answering Newbie's question..

Though an early model, 2008, C63 is now priced at not far off what it would take you buy a TBSTI lib and then try and build and install a 300kw motor twice plus all the suspension and handling mods to handle the power safely. This is just an example. There are plenty of cars that could be used as an example.

It's just another opinion.

Or, do you really want to feel like you have to own the Lib for the rest of your life due to the money you've thrown at it.

[jslayz]

Correct about costs. ...

[<GB>]

youre too far into this to give up! your cars worth fuck all with no motor, rebuild it and hope the next one lasts or fix it up stock and sell it then buy an evo.

mines still together but has issues, even if its built to handle 300 and you only get up it once in a while doesn't mean its not going to have issues and be reliable.

[Deep Heat]

Boostaddict is no longer boosting.

[Newbie GT]

Boostaddict is no longer boosting.

He's had some bad luck!

Hope his builder gives him long term advice

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common theme... high powered Subaru's not so good

[bass_straitener]

common theme... high powered Subaru's not so good

Yeah, one of the members of the BMW club is an ex Prodrive engineer from the Subaru rallying days. I got chatting with him a while back and he told me about the difficulty they had extracting power from the Subaru engines and how everything kept breaking. Went on to say they ended up making components out of titanium in an effort to increase durability. I realise the stresses are different but it was an interesting discussion.

[jaydece]

I get the big power=no reliability.

But im not using the 300kw atw 90% of the time. Its lucky to get a squirt or 2 every time i drive, excluding when i go out with the boys. But most of the time the kids are in the car and i putt putt around.

So my question is that 90% of the time the car is using 100kw atw. So im talking about that being the reliability factor. Cruise with the kids and have a thrash by myself.

Surely ANY car could handle that

Dont think your statement above can be justified? and sound?

300kw at 10% of the time? with 100kw 90% of the time?........think about it? only takes the 1 squirt.....at 300kw 10% of the time for something major to go wrong again without really sinking / thinking / utilitizing the best of the best possible scenarios to re inforce some sort of reliability/security as mentioned above and beyond this forum...

It only takes that 0.01% for something to go wrong or not done properly for it to go bang again...

Maybe your looking at it the wrong way Dan? and I also think your approach on this build is wrong.....what are you really trying to acheive with this car?.....just my 2 cents....whats the saying on this forum?

fast cheap reliable? i think the saying goes....senator please correct me if I'm wrong on saying...cause I believe you've stated it couple times on this forum....

pls dont take offence to my statement above Dan....just some food for thought and talking from experience....

[Boostaddict]

Maybe i worded that wrong.

What im trying to say is that my car is NOT a track car. So its not flat stick 90% of its life. Its a daily driver that takes the kids to school etc, so 90% of the time is not doing anything exciting.... Just making noises.

So if i have built it to handle 400kw atw and run it at 300kw atw and drive it 80-90% sedately. Then that will make it last longer to.

But yes you are correct in the fact that it takes only 1 squirt to kill it.... IE what happend to me on monday .

I "Thought" i was doing the build the right way the first time by doing a sleeved motor, BUT i did it the WRONG way. By no getting my original block and sleeving that with the builder so it was all done under him.

[Boostaddict]

Also there was nothing cheap about this motor.!! It was $10.5k worth

Yes i realise my error now... Little bit too late for that.

But i want a car that can handle 300kw atw all day every day.!'

Thats the end result.... What needs to happen for this to happen for years to come?