A/F Sensor question

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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby VIC GT » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:16 pm

Hey guys,

As far as I know a MAF(mass air flow) and AFM (Air flow meter) are the same things which is the small black box on your intake system.

however an A/F sensor is a air/fuel ratio sensor which you will find in your exhaust system and these seem to be a common problem on the 2.0l GT's... I have had mine replaced twice in a year!
If it was bank 1, sensor 1 then that is your Air/Fuel ratio sensor and that is what you will need to replace not the MAF OR AFM.

And as far as I know there is only two options for this 1: you buy a sensor from the company who makes them for Subaru or 2: you buy the exact same sensor no difference at all apart from the Subaru box it comes in :shock: and pay the mark up for it too!

Hope that helps

If i am wrong in anyway please correct me!

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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby namz0rs » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:46 pm

VIC GT wrote:Hey guys,

As far as I know a MAF(mass air flow) and AFM (Air flow meter) are the same things which is the small black box on your intake system.

however an A/F sensor is a air/fuel ratio sensor which you will find in your exhaust system and these seem to be a common problem on the 2.0l GT's... I have had mine replaced twice in a year!
If it was bank 1, sensor 1 then that is your Air/Fuel ratio sensor and that is what you will need to replace not the MAF OR AFM.

And as far as I know there is only two options for this 1: you buy a sensor from the company who makes them for Subaru or 2: you buy the exact same sensor no difference at all apart from the Subaru box it comes in :shock: and pay the mark up for it too!

Hope that helps

If i am wrong in anyway please correct me!

cheers


Actually u got me thinking there.. i was under the impression that the A/F sensor was the MAF :S

EDIT: Did some googling and it appears ur right VIC GT.. BANK 1 Sensor 1 is the O2 sensor :P
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby VIC GT » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:52 am

namz0rs wrote:Actually u got me thinking there.. i was under the impression that the A/F sensor was the MAF :S

EDIT: Did some googling and it appears ur right VIC GT.. BANK 1 Sensor 1 is the O2 sensor :P


No worries mate :wink:

This should be cheaper then the MAF sensor too!
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby namz0rs » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:26 pm

Finally got it fixed guys. Got the Genuine part from Subaru via a mate for around $400, we replaced it ourselves.. took about 10 mins. Looks like the engine light is now off :D
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby VIC GT » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:38 pm

namz0rs wrote:Finally got it fixed guys. Got the Genuine part from Subaru via a mate for around $400, we replaced it ourselves.. took about 10 mins. Looks like the engine light is now off :D


Now you can use your cruise control again! :D Keep any proof of purchase, I would not be surprised if it went again within the next 12 months :shock:
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby tangcla » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:44 pm

VIC GT wrote:Now you can use your cruise control again! :D Keep any proof of purchase, I would not be surprised if it went again within the next 12 months :shock:

definitely. I'm on my sixth one in the two and a half years ice owned the car, this latest one isn't even a month old andim getting fluctuating idle with the aircon on already... :rolleyes:
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby VIC GT » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:16 pm

tangcla wrote:definitely. I'm on my sixth one in the two and a half years ice owned the car, this latest one isn't even a month old andim getting fluctuating idle with the aircon on already... :rolleyes:


Just a quick question tangcla, I'm wondering what fuel you use? I'm asking because I have had my sensor replaced twice in the last year and the b1 s1 code has just come up again for the 3rd time! I have been told that it my be fuel contamination that could be causing the sensor to fail so frequently :? I have always used BP ultimate...

Has anyone else been told a reason for their sensor to fail?

And what fuel does everyone use?

Maybe I should use different fuel?

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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby tangcla » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:46 am

VIC GT wrote:Just a quick question tangcla, I'm wondering what fuel you use? I'm asking because I have had my sensor replaced twice in the last year and the b1 s1 code has just come up again for the 3rd time! I have been told that it my be fuel contamination that could be causing the sensor to fail so frequently :? I have always used BP ultimate...

Has anyone else been told a reason for their sensor to fail?

And what fuel does everyone use?

Maybe I should use different fuel?

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I use Shell V-Power.
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby namz0rs » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:39 pm

I've put on about 5000 KMs and she's still going strong guys.. Vortex 98
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby DJC » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:02 pm

I'm getting my third one put in on Monday. I use Vortex 98 as well. I'm sick of mine going. At least my Ecudatascan now shows me the code straight away so i know what it is.
Error Code: P0031 ho2s - Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 1 Sensor.
That = O2 Sensor = A/F Sensor.
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby namz0rs » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:19 pm

BL dude, i feel your pain.

I remember that my sensor died straight after i washed my car.. maybe somehow i sprayed a little bit too much water through the bonnet scoop (could be a co-incidence or not..) ? Mine's still good atm, i'm a little bit more careful when washing the car now....
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby tangcla » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:01 am

namz0rs wrote:I remember that my sensor died straight after i washed my car.. maybe somehow i sprayed a little bit too much water through the bonnet scoop (could be a co-incidence or not..) ? Mine's still good atm, i'm a little bit more careful when washing the car now....

Shouldn't have anything to do with it.
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby DJC » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:02 pm

Ok got mine sorted again. $325 all up. Used a aftermarket sensor for a change, as the last three were from Subaru.
And not wanting to enter the whole "which fuel is better" debate, but Paul from Pulse said that Caltex was his LEAST prefered fuel.
So i'm now going to try this aftermarket piece with different fuel and see how long it lasts.
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby tangcla » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:11 pm

DJC wrote:Ok got mine sorted again. $325 all up. Used a aftermarket sensor for a change, as the last three were from Subaru.

What aftermarket sensor did you use? And are you referring to AF (intake) or O2 (exhaust) sensor? I think we have wires crossed along the way :P
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Re: A/F Sensor question

Postby DJC » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:20 pm

AF = O2
MAF/AFM = Intake
AF/O2 = Exhaust
:)

I believe it was a Bosch sensor but i'm not 100% sure as Paul sourced it for me after giving Subaru a ring to see if they would replace it under warrenty. They said NO, so he went out and got an aftermarket one.
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