Securing sub enclosure

Stereos, amps, phone kits, Navi...

Securing sub enclosure

Postby teK-- » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:53 pm

What have people been doing to secure a sub enclosure in their boot? I have previously built false floors out of MDF but this time I'm keeping everything fairly low key and want to retain the factory boot liner carpet.

Not looking to do occy straps or velcro or anything bush mechanic :).

The hollow metal beam which runs east west directly behind the back seat looks good but appears to be pretty thin metal, otherwise I was thinking of making right angle brackets which can screw into this beam using sheetmetal screws?
MY04 2.5i Safety 5MT Sedan "Project Locomotive"
..: JDM Subaru-AVO-Whiteline-Bilstein-Swift Springs-Cusco-Rallitek-GT Brakes-Remsa-K4RT30Y-Blitz-Philips-Défi-STI-Sabelt-Redline-Alpine-Polk Audio-Kenwood-Dynamat :..
User avatar
teK--
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4064
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby wassell2381 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:38 pm

I know you dont recon its a good idea but i just have velcro on the botton of the sub that basically grips with the carpet itself. Along with the weight of the sub and the velcro mine is rock solid although it still allows me to move it quickly if needed.

cheers
Dan
Current:
... TBC
Sold:
MY09 Liberty 3.0R Spec B
MY10 BMW 320d LCI
MY09 Impreza RS Hatch
MY04 Liberty Safety Pack Sedan
User avatar
wassell2381
-stickered-
 
Posts: 374
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:06 pm
Location: Perth, WA
Car: Nil
Real name: Dan

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby Sentinel » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:18 pm

wassell2381 wrote:I know you dont recon its a good idea but i just have velcro on the botton of the sub that basically grips with the carpet itself. Along with the weight of the sub and the velcro mine is rock solid although it still allows me to move it quickly if needed.

cheers
Dan


And, you don't damage your car by drilling into it.

I have used a black rubber band strung b/w the rear seat lock in points. Oh, I've got the blind always shut...
Memoirs of Sentinel:
GT-B | Black | Wagon | Manual | Brembo's | 19"x8 Blaque Diamond Wheels | Tein C/O's w EDFC | Custom Interior | PHAT Zorst | WL Sways | STi Stuff...
Sentinel
-stickered-
 
Posts: 3148
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:43 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby nytrojen » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:32 pm

teK-- wrote:What have people been doing to secure a sub enclosure in their boot? I have previously built false floors out of MDF but this time I'm keeping everything fairly low key and want to retain the factory boot liner carpet.

Not looking to do occy straps or velcro or anything bush mechanic :).

The hollow metal beam which runs east west directly behind the back seat looks good but appears to be pretty thin metal, otherwise I was thinking of making right angle brackets which can screw into this beam using sheetmetal screws?


I've got a 2mm plate bent at 90 degrees and just secured it to high hollow metal beam you're talking about. It's about 2mm thick steel, and holds the sub VERY securely. Doesn't move at all. Have a look at my install pics on the forum to see what I mean. That sub box isn't there anymore, but I'm too lazy to put up pics of the new install unless you really want to see what I've got.

P.S: It's secured with standard metal screws - not self tapping though
nytrojen
-stickered-
 
Posts: 1572
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:14 pm

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby teK-- » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:43 pm

Nytro are you saying the beam is 2mm or your bracket, or both?

Also, since there is no thread to screw into (since you drilled holes into the beam), how did you use regular screws instead of self tapping sheet metal?

EDIT: I just checked the car and I see what you must have done... you must have held nuts up through the holes which are in the bottom of the beam, and tightened up screws through the drilled holes. How may times did you drop a nut and waste lots of time trying to retrieve it ;)
MY04 2.5i Safety 5MT Sedan "Project Locomotive"
..: JDM Subaru-AVO-Whiteline-Bilstein-Swift Springs-Cusco-Rallitek-GT Brakes-Remsa-K4RT30Y-Blitz-Philips-Défi-STI-Sabelt-Redline-Alpine-Polk Audio-Kenwood-Dynamat :..
User avatar
teK--
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4064
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby jdm rsk » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:51 pm

i use a hockey strap and secure it around my rear strut brace, couldnt be bothered taking a new pic but you can just see what i am on about

Image
User avatar
jdm rsk
formerly legacy rsk
 
Posts: 4026
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:04 am
Location: Sydney, Australia, Kasuga City Fukuoka Japan
Car: MY 11 VW Golf GTI ED35
Real name: Shane

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby tangcla » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:58 pm

Velcro by far the easiest and cleanest option.

Remember you're not trying to stop the whole weight of the sub box - you only need to increase the initial friction to prevent it from beginning to move.
www.tangcla.com - photography

Canon 5D Mark III x2 | 16-35mm f/2.8L | 24-70mm f/2.8L IS | 70-200mm f/2.8L IS
100mm f/2.8L IS macro | 200mm f/2.0L IS | 580EX-II x2 | 430EX-II | PocketWizard TT1/TT5
User avatar
tangcla
 
Posts: 7409
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:47 pm
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Car: B6 Audi S4 (4.2L V8)
Real name: Clarence
Profile URL: http://www.tangcla.com

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby teK-- » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:07 pm

tangcla wrote:Velcro by far the easiest and cleanest option.

Remember you're not trying to stop the whole weight of the sub box - you only need to increase the initial friction to prevent it from beginning to move.


Yeah I am, velcro may be sufficient for normal driving but in the event of an emergency stop or collision a velcroed box just becomes a projectile! Even if the box shifts half a foot backwards quickly that could potentially wreck the amp terminals when the cables pull on it. I'll go the right angle brackers into the H-beam it looks good I'll use those screws which have a spring loaded catch at the back that you insert through a drilled hole.
MY04 2.5i Safety 5MT Sedan "Project Locomotive"
..: JDM Subaru-AVO-Whiteline-Bilstein-Swift Springs-Cusco-Rallitek-GT Brakes-Remsa-K4RT30Y-Blitz-Philips-Défi-STI-Sabelt-Redline-Alpine-Polk Audio-Kenwood-Dynamat :..
User avatar
teK--
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4064
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby drndrn » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:20 pm

Why don't you use a combination of velcro and some sort of strap? Instead of screwing/bolting it on. It keeps things simple to move/remove.

I agree in an emergency situation the sub may fly if it isn't secured probably. I've literally covered the bottom of the sub with velcro. So I've had no such issues.
Diamond Grey 2.5i Heritage
User avatar
drndrn
-stickered-
 
Posts: 1498
Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:15 pm
Location: Glen Waverley, Victoria
Car: MY08 Subaru Liberty

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby teK-- » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:11 pm

I'll have a closer look when I test fit the box Drndrn, perhaps I'll have some new ideas and I'll let you guys now. At the moment was just sus'ing out whether the Liberty boots have any handy tricks that you guys have already found :)
MY04 2.5i Safety 5MT Sedan "Project Locomotive"
..: JDM Subaru-AVO-Whiteline-Bilstein-Swift Springs-Cusco-Rallitek-GT Brakes-Remsa-K4RT30Y-Blitz-Philips-Défi-STI-Sabelt-Redline-Alpine-Polk Audio-Kenwood-Dynamat :..
User avatar
teK--
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4064
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby teK-- » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:34 pm

I've done a test fit and shiiiiit it is a tight fit; with the factory boot liner in, the box *just* fits under the beam with an encouraging shove. If the box was 1mm higher it would not fit in, so friction alone will keep the box there most of the time but I'll install similar brackets to yours anyway to be sure.

My only problem now is, that the box is about 2inch too deep, i.e. where the crease is in the bootliner to lift up the back half for the spare tyre, has about 2inch of the box crossing over it.

Without the bootliner in, I can just get the spare tyre out with the box in the car. My question now is this. Has anyone tried creating a new crease in the factory bootliner so it can fold in a new location? The material label on the back shows that the central layer of the liner (inbetween the top and bottom layer of carpet) is "PP" which I presume is polypropylene.

Failing this I will just have to make a new bootliner with some 3mm MDF and carpet.
Attachments
17062009683.jpg
17062009683.jpg (68.3 KiB) Viewed 3974 times
MY04 2.5i Safety 5MT Sedan "Project Locomotive"
..: JDM Subaru-AVO-Whiteline-Bilstein-Swift Springs-Cusco-Rallitek-GT Brakes-Remsa-K4RT30Y-Blitz-Philips-Défi-STI-Sabelt-Redline-Alpine-Polk Audio-Kenwood-Dynamat :..
User avatar
teK--
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4064
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby CappZ » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:39 pm

Mine just sits in there. I didnt want the velcro. I have a rubber car floot mat under it, and it doesn't move..unless your flying around corners :P
Image
http://www.lookatyourface.com

MY04 2.5i - 6000k HIDs, 18" RJR Vouge, Kenwood KDC-BT7539U with custom install, 12" Vibe Slick S12, 420w Clarion amp, all white lighting, K&N panel, 4" cannons, lowered.
User avatar
CappZ
 
Posts: 384
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:24 pm
Location: Sydney
Car: MY04 2.5i
Real name: Alan

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby Sentinel » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:47 pm

You have a sedan yes? Then the projectile you're talking about is not an issue really. And, the only time it will move is in the event of a rear end shove that hit's you 'very hard' - in this instance, it will move toward the boot opening. In heavy braking, it will only lean towards the seats and parcel shelf, thus being held.

Regardless, looks like you've decided anyway so good luck with it.

As for the carpet - maybe heat it up with a hair dryer and create a new crease??
Memoirs of Sentinel:
GT-B | Black | Wagon | Manual | Brembo's | 19"x8 Blaque Diamond Wheels | Tein C/O's w EDFC | Custom Interior | PHAT Zorst | WL Sways | STi Stuff...
Sentinel
-stickered-
 
Posts: 3148
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:43 pm
Location: Melbourne

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby jdm rsk » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:48 am

tangcla wrote:Velcro by far the easiest and cleanest option.

Remember you're not trying to stop the whole weight of the sub box - you only need to increase the initial friction to prevent it from beginning to move.

used velcro it moved and damage the material on the spare wheel cover
User avatar
jdm rsk
formerly legacy rsk
 
Posts: 4026
Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:04 am
Location: Sydney, Australia, Kasuga City Fukuoka Japan
Car: MY 11 VW Golf GTI ED35
Real name: Shane

Re: Securing sub enclosure

Postby CappZ » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:07 pm

jdm rsk wrote:
tangcla wrote:Velcro by far the easiest and cleanest option.

Remember you're not trying to stop the whole weight of the sub box - you only need to increase the initial friction to prevent it from beginning to move.

used velcro it moved and damage the material on the spare wheel cover


That's the reason why I didn't use velcro. I thought it would have ruined the carpet material..so a rubber mat works well =].
Image
http://www.lookatyourface.com

MY04 2.5i - 6000k HIDs, 18" RJR Vouge, Kenwood KDC-BT7539U with custom install, 12" Vibe Slick S12, 420w Clarion amp, all white lighting, K&N panel, 4" cannons, lowered.
User avatar
CappZ
 
Posts: 384
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:24 pm
Location: Sydney
Car: MY04 2.5i
Real name: Alan


Return to Audio options

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests