Goodbye clutch no2

by **BlackGT** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:02 pm

My car has been in service all week and I won't get it back till next week sometime (hopefully) as I need a new clutch. :evil:

Hopefully this time it will be rebuilt from scratch and made twice as strong.

by **SkoobyGT** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:34 pm

Twice as strong, so you can break more gearboxes.

I would prefer a clutch on the slippier side, than to replace the oh so delicate subaru gearboxes.

by **MY05WAGON** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:57 pm

i would have to agree with you scoobyGT. I had a kevlar set up put in my old RS and all that did was make everything in the car loose, stuffed my gearbox and the diff didnt sound to healthy after a while.

You must launch pretty hard BlackGT???. Maybe a more subtle take off? :lol:

I bought my gt wagon second hand with about 20000 k's on the clock. I try and baby the clutch as much as possible, no hard launches and double clutching all the time, hopefully this preserves the life of the clutch (fingers crossed). Standard parts tend to preserve the life of the car, i guess thats what its been engineered for. i learnt that the hard way but not this time.

by **Ric** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:05 am

MY05WAGON wrote:I try and baby the clutch as much as possible, no hard launches and double clutching all the time, hopefully this preserves the life of the clutch (fingers crossed).

Double de-clutching all the time will not preserve the clutch.
It will wear the clutch faster, but put less wear on your synchromesh gears.

by **MY05WAGON** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:30 am

Ric i may have this wrong but if you are double "de-clutching" say from going from 4th gear to 3rd isnt there less friction on the clutch as in the engine doesnt have to catch up in rpms? If you are doing the double de clutching thing right once you have gone from 4th to 3rd for example the engine rpms should be pretty close to where it needs to be? so therefore less catching up and less friction on the clutch? seems like a much smoother down change as in the car doesnt hold back.

i might be wrong though?

by **Mo_GT** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:36 am

SkoobyGT wrote:Twice as strong, so you can break more gearboxes.

I would prefer a clutch on the slippier side, than to replace the oh so delicate subaru gearboxes.

Thats my thinking too.

Btw, I'd replace the clutch and not rebuild the 3rd time...

by **Mo_GT** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:45 am

MY05WAGON wrote:Ric i may have this wrong but if you are double "de-clutching" say from going from 4th gear to 3rd isnt there less friction on the clutch as in the engine doesnt have to catch up in rpms? If you are doing the double de clutching thing right once you have gone from 4th to 3rd for example the engine rpms should be pretty close to where it needs to be? so therefore less catching up and less friction on the clutch? seems like a much smoother down change as in the car doesnt hold back.

i might be wrong though?

Hmmm...double clutching is to keep your gears happy and healthy - not your clutch... When you double clutch, you engage the clutch twice, so technically more wear on the clutch.

To match motor spin speed (crank) to gear spin speed (drive shaft) - you use the throttle - like heel and toe when you downshift to slow down and blip the throttle in neutral on up shifts and when you drop gears for corners.

by **Ric** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:13 pm

As Mo said.
Are you sure you are talking about double declutching, i.e. shifting into neutral, letting the clutch out quickly, blipping the throttle, and pushing the clutch in again (all in one smotth action), before shifting into the lower gear and letting the clutch out again?
It sounds more like you're just describing blipping the throttle a little as you let the clutch out in the lower gear, to match speeds in the clutch.
As you say, that reduces clutch wear a little, but is not "double de-clutching".

by **BlackGT** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:25 am

I simply press the clutch..I don't know about all this blipping and double clutching and whatever.

My wife has been driving the car more than me and she wouldn't be that hard on the clutch. I havn't seen any track days or anything else rigorous, just simply driving the car the way it was designed for. Anyway my thinking is a stronger clutch is better for my style of driving (whatever that is).

by **Mo_GT** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:12 pm

BlackGT wrote:
My wife has been driving the car more than me and she wouldn't be that hard on the clutch. I havn't seen any track days or anything else rigorous...

You don't have to be hard on the clutch to ruin it and if its the 3rd time i think there's a chance thats its driving style thats wearing it out...unless there's a fault with the clutch components that rebuilding is not fixing.

by **Why** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:18 pm

Tip..........learn to drive :wink:

waits to be flamed :twisted:

by **adam** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:18 pm

Why wrote:Tip..........learn to drive

waits to be flamed

SCRAG FIGHT, SCRAG FIGHT, SCRAG FIGHT! :clapping:

as all the students form a circle........

by **BlackGT** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:12 pm

Mo_GT wrote:
BlackGT wrote:
My wife has been driving the car more than me and she wouldn't be that hard on the clutch. I havn't seen any track days or anything else rigorous...

You don't have to be hard on the clutch to ruin it and if its the 3rd time i think there's a chance thats its driving style thats wearing it out...unless there's a fault with the clutch components that rebuilding is not fixing.

First time it went cause of a skidpan day. 2nd time it went I think it was due to it being incorrectly being built which is why I'm more optimistic about this one being stronger.
I think my driving style is fine as in no other car I have ever owned have I had clutch issues.

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