The Next Sydney Drive - Sunday Feb 22 - Updated 16/2

Postby ultrablue » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:08 pm

heres a pic of me at my lunch stop
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luckily i just walked out of the shop with my pie as the tail enders came past
and for the whole trip i ave 9.4 l/100 go the 2.0 L
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Postby CJ1177 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:27 pm

ultrablue is your car a 2.0L Turbo (GT) or a 2.0L N/A :?:
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Postby senator » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:31 pm

mmmmm mine was 17.8 on the way there and after filling in wiseman its returned to 11.8..... and now its feels a lot smoother.
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Postby ultrablue » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:39 pm

twin scroll power for my baby
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Postby Fangin_RX » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:00 pm

Lol when we saw you we are all like "Should we stop and grab him? Shane was like nah bugger him keep going :P"

Good fun tho them frackin 4WD's around them blind corners scared me a few times i had to grass it for one of the big bastards with that Passat infront of me
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Postby RX_MY02 » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:34 pm

Yeah thanks for oragnising the day rod, highly enjoyable.

lost you guys before we got to wisemans ferry, evevtually found ethan, but then it was just easier to head home so as not to make it a too long a day.
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Postby smythie » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:47 pm

senator wrote:i need better springs.... :oops: :oops: .. i kept bottoming out over those bridges..... and kept bouncing for a few km’s after them

hmm, bouncing for a few kays after? sounds like damper problems to me
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Postby Mano™ » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:19 pm

Mick_Rex wrote:
senator wrote:mano we went through a town called Maroota....... :lol:


......shortly followed over the CB radios by
"Quick someone take a photo of it to show Mano"
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Awww I can now feel the love :oops:

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Postby senator » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:17 pm

smythie wrote:
senator wrote:i need better springs.... :oops: :oops: .. i kept bottoming out over those bridges..... and kept bouncing for a few km’s after them

hmm, bouncing for a few kays after? sounds like damper problems to me


i wish it was, that could be fixed under warranty, but its the crap soft springs.......... btw i did get carried away about bouncing for a few km's...... maybe meters, but it was enough to get the car very unsettled, unlike fatfrogs car which was solid around all the bends..... maybe cause of the extra weight, cause it was a barge......i mean wagon..... :lol: :lol:
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Postby smythie » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:26 pm

soft springs won't really cause it to bounce around a lot after the bump. Sure, the suspension will travel more and probably quicker too but adequate damping will still return the car to equilibrium without overshooting.

Soft damping however will cause it to bounce around after a big hit. An easy test is to push the corner of the car up and down a few times and see if it returns to rest immediately without any further bouncing. If it even bounces once your dampers are on the way out.

An easy check for soft springs is that they will cause the car to sit lower than usual (for those springs) at rest
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Postby senator » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:32 pm

smythie wrote:soft springs won't really cause it to bounce around a lot after the bump. Sure, the suspension will travel more and probably quicker too but adequate damping will still return the car to equilibrium without overshooting.

Soft damping however will cause it to bounce around after a big hit. An easy test is to push the corner of the car up and down a few times and see if it returns to rest immediately without any further bouncing. If it even bounces once your dampers are on the way out.

An easy check for soft springs is that they will cause the car to sit lower than usual (for those springs) at rest


tony you need too factor in the road conditions i was driving on....... big bumps +many small bumps+ spirited driving = alot of bouncing...
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Postby smythie » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:56 pm

yeah, I know the roads :wink: Done 'em many times :D

If it's just feeling harsh over bumps it could be a number of things - soft springs and/or soft dampers (it'll be crashing through to the bump stops on bigger hits) or hard springs and/or stiff damper (it'll be harsh and jiggly)

<edit> just read your comment in the suspension section and see you were meaning your were bottoming out. In that case soft springs will definitely be a factor. The Pinks also start the damper lower in its stroke so it has less time to try to control the motion (slow the compression down) - in fact any shorter spring will bring that problem. A progressive rate spring can help the damper a little towards the end of the compression stroke. It will work against the rebound damping of the damper once the suspension has finished compressing however but I'm not sure that it would be as much of a concern as the thing bottoming out </edit>

If the thing feels uncontrolled over bumps, I wouldn't be ruling out the shocks though. It is the shocks afterall which do all of the suspension motion control. The springs serve to suspend the car (hopefully in the middle of the damper stroke when at rest) in order to allow the suspension to compress when needed otherwise the car would settle to its bump stops (even with the stiffest damping)
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Postby jdm rsk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:03 pm

senator wrote:mmmmm mine was 17.8 on the way there and after filling in wiseman its returned to 11.8..... and now its feels a lot smoother.
same tony overall 11.8
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Postby jdm rsk » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:06 pm

no pictures to busy driving :lol:
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Postby Fangin_RX » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:27 pm

RX_MY02 wrote:Yeah thanks for oragnising the day rod, highly enjoyable.

lost you guys before we got to wisemans ferry, evevtually found ethan, but then it was just easier to head home so as not to make it a too long a day.


Was wondering why 3 of you came out of that road.. i just kept going, Caught up with the ferrys and caught the 2nd one just as the first one left
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