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Postby Mano™ » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:05 pm

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Local News - Southern Suburbs
Written by Daniel Shaw
Tuesday, 13 January 2009 14:11

Car Hoons meet their match as police
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It's long overdue, but Police have finally been given the powers to "clamp down" on car hoons. New legislation has been passed giving police power to secure vehicles for a set amount time.

The wheel clamps are placed on offender's vehicles who are caught and convicted for street racing and burn-out offences.

Offenders will be forced to pay for the clamping service. Should the owner feel the need to blatantly ignore the new laws and tamper with the secuirty device, a fine of $2,200 will be issued per offence.

Two vehicles have been the lucky first to participate in the scheme after they were seized two days ago during an alleged street race.

Their beloved cars were safely returned to them today with the added bonus of a fine and of course a heavy yellow clamp, mysteriously hugging their tyre.

NSW Police Traffic Commander John Hartley is hoping that this will serve as a warning and deterrent for all hoons who choose to take serious and careless risks on our roads.
The clamping trials began at two local area commands on 26 September 2008 and will continue until further notice.

Source: http://www.freenews.com.au/index.php/so ... -downq-028
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Postby Spec B Wgn » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:32 pm

i think in Adelaide they impounded 1350 cars for hoon behaviour last year

...they have budgeted for approx 1800 this year..
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Postby Fangin_RX » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:00 pm

man that'd suck to have your car there right infront of you but you cant drive it. But well that will teach the Hoons not to do that, they built race tracks for that kind of stuff.
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Postby XRC15T » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:13 pm

2 fto's in livo...

wonder if rim scratchy.......

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New penalties for street racing and burnout offences
As part of the NSW Government’s State Plan a number of tough new measures are being introduced to combat anti-social ‘car hoon’ behaviour. The new laws make it clear for those irresponsible drivers that treat NSW roads as their own personal race track that this type of selfish and dangerous behaviour will not be tolerated.

Road Transport Legislation Amendment (Car Hoons) Act 2008
The Road Transport Legislation Amendment (Car Hoons) Act 2008 introduces new measures and increased penalties for those who engage in illegal street racing and ‘car hoon’ activity.

Court imposed penalties
From 6 June 2008 the maximum penalties for a person who is convicted of a street racing or burnout offence are as follows:

The maximum court imposed fine for a burnout offence is $1,100 (up from $550)
The maximum court imposed fine for an aggravated burnout offence is $3,300 for a first offence (up from $770) and $3,300 and/or 9 months imprisonment for a second or subsequent offence. A 12-month automatic period of disqualification will also apply to the driver following conviction for the offence.
The maximum court imposed fine for a street racing offence is $3,300 (up from $2,200) for a first offence and $3,300 and/or 9 months imprisonment for a second or subsequent offence. A 12-month automatic period of disqualification will continue to apply to those convicted of this offence.
Street racing and burnout offences are prescribed under sections 40 and 41 of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999.

The increased penalties outlined above are the first steps in a number of measures already announced by the NSW Government. Other measures to be introduced in the coming months include:

Immediate licence suspension
From September 2008, existing police powers to immediately suspend a driver’s licence at the roadside (currently for mid and high range alcohol offences, causing death or grievous bodily harm by the use of a vehicle, or travelling in excess of 45km/h over the speed limit) will include the street racing offence and aggravated burnout offence. The suspension will remain in place until the charge is determined by a court.

The new laws will expand the definition of an aggravated burnout offence and the new penalties will also apply to a hoon driver’s mate who willingly participates in, urge others to participate in, photograph or film to promote or organise hoon activity.

Motor vehicle sanctions
Under the current laws, NSW Police have the power to confiscate the car of a driver who commits a street racing or aggravated burnout offence. Under new measures to be introduced, police will have the additional options of clamping a vehicle, or giving the driver or registered operator of the vehicle a notice requiring that the vehicle be produced at a specified place within 10 days. If the vehicle is not produced a court imposed penalty of $2,200 can apply, and the RTA may suspend the vehicle’s registration for a period of 3 months.

Where a court finds a person guilty of a street racing offence or aggravated burnout offence as prescribed under sections 40 and 41(2) of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999, the following will apply.

Where the driver is also the registered operator of the vehicle
In cases where the driver is the registered operator, the vehicle may be clamped or impounded for a period of 3 months for a first offence. For a second or subsequent offence, the vehicle may be forfeited to the Crown and may be sold or released to the RTA for crash testing (see below for more about crash testing).

Where the driver is not the registered operator of the vehicle
In cases where the driver is not the registered operator, the RTA may issue a suspension warning notice to the registered operator warning that if the same vehicle, or any other motor vehicle registered to that person, is used in a second offence, the registration of the vehicle used in a second offence may be suspended for a period of 3 months.

If a second offence is committed within 5 years after a suspension warning letter is given, the registration of the vehicle used in a second offence may be suspended for a period of 3 months. If a third or subsequent offence is committed within 5 years after a suspension warning letter is given, the vehicle used in the third or subsequent offence may be forfeited to the Crown to be sold or released to the RTA for crash testing (see below for more about crash testing).

In cases where the registration cannot be suspended by the RTA (eg. the registration is already suspended or has expired) the police will cause the vehicle to be clamped or impounded for a period of 3 months.

It is not intended that vehicle owners be penalised for the driving offence committed, but rather for failing to adequately supervise use of their vehicle on repeated occasions.

Crash testing by the RTA
Current laws already provide that the cars of repeat offenders may be forfeited to the Crown. Usually, those vehicles are sold and the money used to recover storage and collection costs. The new laws will allow certain forfeited vehicles to be released to the RTA for crash testing.

The RTA will use the unique tests to investigate the potential effects of certain modifications on overall crashworthiness and the wrecks of these vehicles will be displayed at education days for young drivers, or at other RTA presentations.
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Postby Mano™ » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:26 pm

It's good that they have done this.. there is a lot of bogan's etc.. out there an they stuff it up for everyone, an it might stop the loss of lives on the road.

Spose if it does scratch ur rims.. unlucky.. you shouldn't of been doing what you were doing.. pay for the consequences! :)
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Postby Ric » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:12 pm

Victoria has had "hoon" laws for a while now, but they lock your car up in a warehouse for a set period. At least one person has had his car taken straight off him again for doing a burnout as he drove away from picking it up. ;)

A week ago, a 78 year old earned the "oldest hoon" title, after losing his modified Skyline for 48 hours....
http://www.theage.com.au/national/cops- ... -7amr.html
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http://news.theage.com.au/national/im-a ... -7amy.html
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Postby drndrn » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:17 pm

It's a Pulsar GTiR. :)
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Postby Ric » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:37 pm

Oops, he was racing AGAINST a Skyline. My bad memory strikes again. :)
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Postby smythie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:20 am

LI81TY wrote:It's good that they have done this.. there is a lot of bogan's etc.. out there an they stuff it up for everyone, an it might stop the loss of lives on the road.

Spose if it does scratch ur rims.. unlucky.. you shouldn't of been doing what you were doing.. pay for the consequences! :)


it won't stop the loss of lives on the road. It doesn't even have the potential to save a single life.

It is only policed because it is easy to identify someone generating smoke or travelling faster than the other nobs on the road.

If they were really serious about reducing "hooning"/etc they would provide places where people can have a bit of fun rather than "endanger their lives and those of everyone around them" :roll: . Currently there are few to none around
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Postby Kevlar GT » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:30 am

smythie wrote:it won't stop the loss of lives on the road. It doesn't even have the potential to save a single life.


If they were really serious about reducing "hooning"/etc they would provide places where people can have a bit of fun rather than "endanger their lives and those of everyone around them" :roll: . Currently there are few to none around


Umm, yeah, right. Have a think about people that have been killed from or during street races (yes, drivers and passengers are included) and your statement makes less sense than the number of 'fun' places to drive.

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Postby smythie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:35 am

do you work for the transport minister?

Think about all of the drivers who crash and die everyday while sticking to the speed limits, with legally acceptable BAC and generally being safe. They are assured that if they stay under the speed limit, don't drink and drive and manage their fatigue that they will be safe and that no harm will come to them and theirs.
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Postby Kevlar GT » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:50 am

smythie wrote:do you work for the transport minister?

Think about all of the drivers who crash and die everyday while sticking to the speed limits, with legally acceptable BAC and generally being safe. They are assured that if they stay under the speed limit, don't drink and drive and manage their fatigue that they will be safe and that no harm will come to them and theirs.


No. And yeah, I think about those poor people and their families - but - having a wanker at the wheel with too much testosterone and blinkers on for his two minutes of fame amongst his hats on backwards mate causing an accident and killing an innocent person would be a fair kick in the guts to take.

Are you a street racer?
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Postby smythie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:07 am

Kevlar GT wrote:No. And yeah, I think about those poor people and their families - but - having a wanker at the wheel with too much testosterone and blinkers on for his two minutes of fame amongst his hats on backwards mate causing an accident and killing an innocent person would be a fair kick in the guts to take.


No more than someone run over because some idiot wasn't paying attention at the wheel. No two minutes of fame for the driver. And no easy way for the media, cops and policy makers to say "hey we're doing something to prevent this happening again". So they pick the easy one - people having a bit of fun - to crack down on. No science in deciding which area to look at, just the easiest and be damned with the fact that it is the one of the least effective uses of tax dollars to reduce road tolls

Kevlar GT wrote:Are you a street racer?


Nope.

But I also don't absorb and completely believe the crap shown in the sensationalist media every evening between 5 and 7pm either.

Can you answer this question: how does someone doing a burnout in a quiet industrial estate (or quiet culdesac) manage to be less safe than the associated antics you see in traffic everyday or the cops who fang through traffic
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Postby Kevlar GT » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:22 am

smythie wrote:Can you answer this question: how does someone doing a burnout in a quiet industrial estate (or quiet culdesac) manage to be less safe than the associated antics you see in traffic everyday or the cops who fang through traffic


If they stick to industrial estates then meh, who cares, not my money being wasted on ruining my tyres. Got one 15 minutes from my place with an awesome potential qtr mile strip. Problem is they bring the racing into the suburbs and that is where shit can go wrong - something I have seen on the news (and in my own suburb) enough times for a clamp to be a good thing.

Anyway, if you are a law abiding driver then these laws won't affect you so what's it matter. :D
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Postby smythie » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:36 am

There you go, quoting the "news". That rubbish, while occasionally informative, is little more than propaganda

The matter? A few things bother me about this "hooning" crap: civil liberties are being impinged upon for no good reason; police/politicians are targetting a minority in the hope of fixing the much bigger problem (which this minority funnily enough has little effect on); the knowledge that if you (yes, you as well KevlarGT) happen to accelerate to get away from some idiot truck driver for example, you will have your license suspended and your car impounded and clamped.

The premise of "innocent until proven guilty" is thrown out the window.
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