The E85 Thread

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United on Main North Road in Adelaide is running 107 E85 now. They still haven't changed their branding over yet according to the guy over the counter when I was there a week ago.
Pretty much all the VIC stations have it though:
http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/unite ... store-list

[tom_kauf]

Our North QLD one (Townsville) has been delayed :/. The United website has been saying 'coming in the next few months' since at least January.

I called United and they said it's because of shop storage limitations. It is a pretty small store, but I don't care if your chip packets don't all fit, just do the E85!

[beardedbandit]

How many Kms could I get to a tank on E85? I currently get ~420km a tank running 98 octane.

That all depends on your style of driving, cars condition, stop start driving? fwy? many things to factor in...

On mine everyday mix driving I get anywhere between 380-450km per tank...On spirited driving runs I'll get anywhere between 300-350km per tank...

Really? The best I have achieved is 250Km to a tank and that involved a fair bit of freeway. I'm currently getting under 200KM. I t was dyno tuned by Kido and I'm thinking something has gone wrong.

Matt, any ideas?

[alexeiwoody]

How many Kms could I get to a tank on E85? I currently get ~420km a tank running 98 octane.

That all depends on your style of driving, cars condition, stop start driving? fwy? many things to factor in...

On mine everyday mix driving I get anywhere between 380-450km per tank...On spirited driving runs I'll get anywhere between 300-350km per tank...

Really? The best I have achieved is 250Km to a tank and that involved a fair bit of freeway. I'm currently getting under 200KM. I t was dyno tuned by Kido and I'm thinking something has gone wrong.

Matt, any ideas?

That's really bad man. 300km is the minimum you should be getting even with an extremely rich tune and no freeway driving.

What's your setup/car/location?

Post up an LV.

[KiDo_Tuning]

Really? The best I have achieved is 250Km to a tank and that involved a fair bit of freeway. I'm currently getting under 200KM. I t was dyno tuned by Kido and I'm thinking something has gone wrong.

Matt, any ideas?

That's really bad man. 300km is the minimum you should be getting even with an extremely rich tune and no freeway driving.

What's your setup/car/location?

Post up an LV.

Was awaiting fuel pump install, it has timing pulled out of it until new fuel pump goes in Hence fuel economy out the window, lack of torque is from a lack of timing. Runs less than 98 tune at the moment as the old pump was not liking the flow of E85 on bigger injectors

[alexeiwoody]

Really? The best I have achieved is 250Km to a tank and that involved a fair bit of freeway. I'm currently getting under 200KM. I t was dyno tuned by Kido and I'm thinking something has gone wrong.

Matt, any ideas?

That's really bad man. 300km is the minimum you should be getting even with an extremely rich tune and no freeway driving.

What's your setup/car/location?

Post up an LV.

Was awaiting fuel pump install, it has timing pulled out of it until new fuel pump goes in Hence fuel economy out the window, lack of torque is from a lack of timing. Runs less than 98 tune at the moment as the old pump was not liking the flow of E85 on bigger injectors

This may be just me misreading... but it doesn't sound like the customer quite shares your attitude toward this issue?

Why would you charge someone for a dyno tune, when they don't have the no.1 required mod for e85 - a bigger pump installed?

[Deep Heat]

Why would you charge someone for a dyno tune, when they don't have the no.1 required mod for e85 - a bigger pump installed?

Because YOLO!

[shav]

Matt may have warned the owner prior to the tune (something we may not know about), but if the owner insisted Matt still put the tune in despite the warnings, then the OP will need to accept this and get the new fuel pump asap.

[alexeiwoody]

Why would you charge someone for a dyno tune, when they don't have the no.1 required mod for e85 - a bigger pump installed?

Because YOLO!

This actually makes sense

Matt may have warned the owner prior to the tune (something we may not know about), but if the owner insisted Matt still put the tune in despite the warnings, then the OP will need to accept this and get the new fuel pump asap.

Shav, if that is the case - there is absolutely no point in putting the car on a dyno. It will just need to go on again and tuned from scratch.

If the pump doesn't even have enough power for decent fuel economy, I can only imagine what the car drives like.

So far the OP's and the tuner's stories don't quite line up

[KiDo_Tuning]

Matt may have warned the owner prior to the tune (something we may not know about), but if the owner insisted Matt still put the tune in despite the warnings, then the OP will need to accept this and get the new fuel pump asap.

Converted to ethanol night before. It was to check AFR's and then make sure the injector scaling was correct and that it would not need a fuel pressure increase. Tune is on my laptop waiting to go on.

[beardedbandit]

I installed the pump the next day. Matt did express to me after the dyno tune that perhaps the new pump would be beneficial but not that the factory one would cause the economy issue?
I know you were busy but I don't recall being told that you'd clean up the tune for next time, when are you in Melbs next because I am very keen for this.

NB - I am very happy with the way it pulls and cold starts have never been close to an issue, I am in no way saying I was hard done by. It sounds like Matt and I just had a miscommunication (me thinking that was the good and final tune) but this is the first attempt I've had at contacting him about it so he was not to know about this issue. I just kind of accepted that E85 uses more but it's so bad I've thought of converting back as I literally am unable to travel interstate, even with a couple cans of extra fuel.So I had another look on here to see what people were getting and realised I'm using way too much.
But it sounds like we can easily rectify this problem.

[Kesh]

WOW - filled up E85 today at 97.7 cents per litre

bring it on united

2012...




EDIT: Just realised this thread was dead. My bad! hahaha

[kiwigene]

Not dead. And back in February this year I paid 80c/l when the unleaded price dipped to $1/l - was only for one week though.

Filled up today for 107.9c/l at Caltex Moorebank (Sydney).

The price of petrol has been so volatile over the last few years it's hard to predict exactly what it will be from one month to the next.

[chook]

No more eflex at Caltex at Nicholls Canberra! Shitty bum bum.

[alexeiwoody]

No more eflex at Caltex at Nicholls Canberra! Shitty bum bum.

I predict it won't be long until no more E85.

It's bloody overpriced for a daily car anyway.