Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:49 am

Injector duty peaked at 87.7%. Tuning not fully compete yet but it's certainly a much better car than it was.

Yours is making some impressive power now, looking forward to seeing it out at Powercruise. I'll be cruising around in my bros little sr20 ke30 again, but prob not going down until the Sunday for the $100k burnout comp.

I still need to swing you some money for that intake too.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby kiahatsiu » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:27 am

Don't worry about the intake man.
Kinda flush. Fitment is something. ADM as F*ck.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby Archie01 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:53 pm

They say g/sec is close to hp atw.
Assuming this is correct, you are around 178kw atw give or take.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:21 pm

Yeah I've read that but it stems from the US and their dynos seem generous. That was an exception on a cold night, it consistently pulls just over 230g/s. But boost is still tapering to 13.5psi by 6400 do has more in it.

I'm most curious as to what a stock turbo or stock car is able to do as a comparison.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:06 pm

2jz929 wrote:Yeah I've read that but it stems from the US and their dynos seem generous. That was an exception on a cold night, it consistently pulls just over 230g/s. But boost is still tapering to 13.5psi by 6400 do has more in it.

I'm most curious as to what a stock turbo or stock car is able to do as a comparison.


Stock VF38 manages around 210 at 15.4psi at peak power. Makes 173Kw@wheels with a TMIC/Turboback
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:43 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:
2jz929 wrote:Yeah I've read that but it stems from the US and their dynos seem generous. That was an exception on a cold night, it consistently pulls just over 230g/s. But boost is still tapering to 13.5psi by 6400 do has more in it.

I'm most curious as to what a stock turbo or stock car is able to do as a comparison.


Stock VF38 manages around 210 at 15.4psi at peak power. Makes 173Kw@wheels with a TMIC/Turboback


Sweet, so this turbo is definitely a decent upgrade considering what it is doing with minimal mods on less boost. I don't have a comparison to stock as my turbo was pretty shagged when I got the car.

Is it worth putting a higher flowing air filter in, or fitting the shorter silicone pipe that goes to the air box?

Will have to track down a TMIC/FMIC when funds recover.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby dr20t » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:05 pm

2jz929 wrote:
KiDo_Tuning wrote:
2jz929 wrote:Yeah I've read that but it stems from the US and their dynos seem generous. That was an exception on a cold night, it consistently pulls just over 230g/s. But boost is still tapering to 13.5psi by 6400 do has more in it.

I'm most curious as to what a stock turbo or stock car is able to do as a comparison.


Stock VF38 manages around 210 at 15.4psi at peak power. Makes 173Kw@wheels with a TMIC/Turboback


Sweet, so this turbo is definitely a decent upgrade considering what it is doing with minimal mods on less boost. I don't have a comparison to stock as my turbo was pretty shagged when I got the car.

Is it worth putting a higher flowing air filter in, or fitting the shorter silicone pipe that goes to the air box?

Will have to track down a TMIC/FMIC when funds recover.



Good outcome

I would suggest stock air box with 3" silicon intake (will improve response slightly but no need to change airbox until 230awkw)

G/s is a relative indicator of flywheel hp IF maf resolution is accurate
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby andy_mac » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:10 am

KiDo_Tuning wrote:
2jz929 wrote:Yeah I've read that but it stems from the US and their dynos seem generous. That was an exception on a cold night, it consistently pulls just over 230g/s. But boost is still tapering to 13.5psi by 6400 do has more in it.

I'm most curious as to what a stock turbo or stock car is able to do as a comparison.


Stock VF38 manages around 210 at 15.4psi at peak power. Makes 173Kw@wheels with a TMIC/Turboback


What kind of torque value are you getting at that level?
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:28 pm

My car now has a Hyperflow TMIC and a 1 bar wastegate spring (which isn't actually a full 1 bar which is normal for kinugawa). Its currently at 261g/s, 4.60v maf, 95% idc.

Taking it out to Willowbank Raceway tomorrow night in the hope of running a 13, but realistically anything better than the original 15.1@89 will be an improvement :D
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby HardwareBoB » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:35 pm

2jz929 wrote:My car now has a Hyperflow TMIC and a 1 bar wastegate spring (which isn't actually a full 1 bar which is normal for kinugawa). Its currently at 261g/s, 4.60v maf, 95% idc.

Taking it out to Willowbank Raceway tomorrow night in the hope of running a 13, but realistically anything better than the original 15.1@89 will be an improvement :D

Enjoy that intercooler, it served me well :) should be easily a 13 in your car now.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:42 pm

Cheers mate. Was surprised how easily it fit, just slipped the stocko out and it slipped straight in. Sure is a fat thing too.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby dr20t » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:04 pm

2jz929 wrote:My car now has a Hyperflow TMIC and a 1 bar wastegate spring (which isn't actually a full 1 bar which is normal for kinugawa). Its currently at 261g/s, 4.60v maf, 95% idc.

Taking it out to Willowbank Raceway tomorrow night in the hope of running a 13, but realistically anything better than the original 15.1@89 will be an improvement :D


That's flowing some air right there

Good outcome.

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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby jslayz » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:24 am

I predict Low 13 coming up.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby jslayz » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:27 am

I predict Low 13 coming up.
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
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Re: Turbo Upgrade / Replacement (MY04/05?)

Postby 2jz929 » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:08 am

I'm not overly confident because these wagons are 1500kg plus my 120kg. That's a lot of weight for a little 2l to move. Trying to get the Mrs to run it instead, that's a 70kg saving haha.
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