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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby jaydece » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:32 pm

imania wrote:Rebuild is not at Revzone. Stop pushing your own agenda Alexei, it's worn very thin. I know I'm not the only one tired of reading your confrontational retorts.


Going to take a guess? Is Paul doing it? In good hands!

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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby jaydece » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:42 pm

dr20t wrote:
5. Bad luck and another case of "Subaru - all to fuck the driver"

Good luck with it mate

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Totally agree.....FArk! you can say that again......

Hope its smooth sailing from now on Alex :!:

just quickly? your statement Brother Owen does come off as if "your taking a stab at Phil" ....Personally for me I havent had ANY issues with all the work Phil has done to my car input on my block, cams, heads etc... and have learned shitloads off him....I cant speak on behalf of other people...

If the honest truth is Alex farked up with not getting the car tuned ASAP after the upgrades....then he should wear it....unless there's something not being shared or told truthfully....then it should be cleared up now...All these shadow game statements are really a waste of time...

Would be beneficial for ALL if a RCA "root case analysis" was concluded appriopiately to the cause of the problem then that would speak more than anything else been said above...

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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby owen » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:19 pm

jaydece wrote:Why not Revzone?


Because we were booked out from 1 month prior to WTAC till next year, from me putting down other businesses to drum up business for myself :wink:
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby <GB> » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:27 pm

what tune did you have in it for that short time that caused the heads to lift?
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:36 pm

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chubbs wrote:For the record Alexie Owen/Revzone warned me I need a retune asap and it was me who delayed the retune. The heads lifting had nothing to do with revzones exceptional work and I would recommend them to anyone! Matts tuning wasnt the case either. Alexie have you ever had work done at revzone before? Are you aware of the quality of work they do? Phil did what I paid him to do. Im the one who pushed it with bigger turbo and other mods to lift the heads. Nothing to do with Matts tune or Owens work. And whats this shit about owens old engine. Your speaking of somwthing you know nothing about....... :?


Good to hear about RevZone. I apologise if you thought I was questioning the quality of work, only how things should be done, to avoid a blown engine.

This being the 4th kido tuned lib on the forum (off the top of my head) this year alone needing a rebuild, unless you're a tuner yourself, I don't see how you can say there wasn't a problem. You're merely speculating that the problem happened while the car wasn't tuned. Kudos to you, IMO it's very generous of you.

As for Owen's engine - Matt sent me a few details about it, along with 4 other people. Even if I knew nothing, the point that a perfectly healthy EJ doesn't require replacement still stands.


Hey Alexei...
Your dribbling shit again

Does a split intercooler tank and split turbo inlet pipe months after I tuned the car making the car run lean, tell the owner there is a mechanical issue and then it melts a piston count as MY fault? Or should the workshop who failed to smoke test the car not picking up the leak attribute blame? or is it the owner for still driving the car knowing something mechanical is going on?

Might want to ask Chubbs about the IAM on his old 98 tune since you need to know so much :air_kiss: Hint, its not the only one ;)

Want details of the guys who I have retuned from Gosford/Erina/Woywoy/Newcastle/Sydney this year who have had engine issues from their previous tuner as well? Hint: Its a few more than 4 ;) Are they all tune related or do mechanical issues arise on other tuners work as well?

We actually left boost and timing on the conservative side as it spooled fast and we dialed it back. Even Vin from Gotitrex who was running the dyno said it was a conservative tune Alexei...

So for example, if a tuner tried to go over 260Kw on stock headbolts from E85... that would be stupid right?
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby owen » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:36 am

^GTFO

Are you seriously trying to tell me that after you tuned my car, you can't be held responsible for the price of fish?!?!
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby peadya100 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:21 am

owen wrote:^GTFO

Are you seriously trying to tell me that after you tuned my car, you can't be held responsible for the price of fish?!?!


Yeah the tuner should never wipe their hands of the problem. Regardless of who they think is to blame.

Plus I think we're all sick of the "who's a better tuner" thing Matt. Every tuner makes mistakes from time to time. Saying you re-tune other tuners work is a null point, as the same is often said about your tunes. So for the sake of putting that to bed, let's call it a tie. All the main tuners are equally good. :D
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby dr20t » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:32 am

Addicted to corn juice....

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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:40 am

peadya100 wrote:
owen wrote:^GTFO

Are you seriously trying to tell me that after you tuned my car, you can't be held responsible for the price of fish?!?!


Yeah the tuner should never wipe their hands of the problem. Regardless of who they think is to blame.

Plus I think we're all sick of the "who's a better tuner" thing Matt. Every tuner makes mistakes from time to time. Saying you re-tune other tuners work is a null point, as the same is often said about your tunes. So for the sake of putting that to bed, let's call it a tie. All the main tuners are equally good. :D


I never wiped my hands of the problem... it is why I am tuning Chubbs car on Monday.

Exactly, I am just sick of Alexei thinking that engine issues dont occur with other tunes/tuners. He just thinks something was wrong with Owens motor... probably thinks that any EJ20X LGT with a single non active cam having an issue is my fault too. Wait, is the Supercharged H6 that ingested a cat my fault too?
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby Newbie GT » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:47 pm

Everybody is an expert until something goes wrong ....
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Postby Newbie GT » Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:50 pm

Having said that I must admit I don't hear horror stories from MSR tunes..

Matt this is not a dig at you or any other tuners out there but the above statement even over on Rex net applies I think msr is renound for not having engines go boom after he tunes them
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby <GB> » Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:52 am

chinese whispers much!! I know I've heard so much conflicting info about cars and tuners
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby dr20t » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:22 am

Matt is one of the best that I've seen. Very busy and often hard to catch, but his knowledge is sound. But even then he makes mistakes. And I know Matt can also be aggressive with tunes if the owner so wishes. Not having a dig at Matt here but if the owner wants a dyno figure, then as long as Matt explains the risks, you can't blame him.

I've been honest with matt about some of my concerns if he pushes too much ignition or cam timing and the impacts of this for some setups. Especially if he doesn't know the background / history of the engine etc. I am quite comfortable however that Matt does build in sufficient buffer into his tunes so any catastrophic failures can be caught early.

My strong advice to anyone chasing over 200kw atw from an EJ series motor is to ensure its tuned on a dyno, with knock ears. This is even more important on stock pistons running 98 Ron fuel. E85 I would be more concerned about cylinder pressure and dynamic compression ratio which can only be tested on a dyno as you can push well past MBT on e85 without knowing it until you get reversion or diminishing piston speed / torque. And that can only be properly done on a dyno.

In my opinion you can't blame a tuner for an under engineered engine from the get go. Whoever thinks the ej255 is a good platform for anything over 200kw atw is off their tree. The ej255 is an economy engine not a race engine.

Again it does come down to quality of parts and build quality but in this instance I think Phil Lowe has the requisite knowledge to shit on all ppl on this forum. Given the engine was stock other than headstuds then I think it comes down to another case of too much strain for the shit ej255. Fact is the ej255 is not conducive to sustainable high power. I know I've said in the past that they can be built to 230awkw reliably. But the more I learn the more I refine that backward. The ej255 is simply not built to tolerate high cylinder pressures for a long time in stock form.

The one thing msr is renowned for is building and tuning an engine. I think this offers a great point of difference as he obviously knows what he has built and can tune accordingly. This provides a good risk platform for a built motor (even stock rebuild etc).

Moral of the story - you pay to play. Bolt on mod choice is critical, as is engine history etc. Tune needs to be spot on and don't risk any bolt on mods without a tune.

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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby shav » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:39 am

dr20t wrote:Matt is one of the best that I've seen. Very busy and often hard to catch, but his knowledge is sound. But even then he makes mistakes. And I know Matt can also be aggressive with tunes if the owner so wishes. Not having a dig at Matt here but if the owner wants a dyno figure, then as long as Matt explains the risks, you can't blame him.

I've been honest with matt about some of my concerns if he pushes too much ignition or cam timing and the impacts of this for some setups. Especially if he doesn't know the background / history of the engine etc. I am quite comfortable however that Matt does build in sufficient buffer into his tunes so any catastrophic failures can be caught early.

My strong advice to anyone chasing over 200kw atw from an EJ series motor is to ensure its tuned on a dyno, with knock ears. This is even more important on stock pistons running 98 Ron fuel. E85 I would be more concerned about cylinder pressure and dynamic compression ratio which can only be tested on a dyno as you can push well past MBT on e85 without knowing it until you get reversion or diminishing piston speed / torque. And that can only be properly done on a dyno.

In my opinion you can't blame a tuner for an under engineered engine from the get go. Whoever thinks the ej255 is a good platform for anything over 200kw atw is off their tree. The ej255 is an economy engine not a race engine.

Again it does come down to quality of parts and build quality but in this instance I think Phil Lowe has the requisite knowledge to shit on all ppl on this forum. Given the engine was stock other than headstuds then I think it comes down to another case of too much strain for the shit ej255. Fact is the ej255 is not conducive to sustainable high power. I know I've said in the past that they can be built to 230awkw reliably. But the more I learn the more I refine that backward. The ej255 is simply not built to tolerate high cylinder pressures for a long time in stock form.

The one thing msr is renowned for is building and tuning an engine. I think this offers a great point of difference as he obviously knows what he has built and can tune accordingly. This provides a good risk platform for a built motor (even stock rebuild etc).

Moral of the story - you pay to play. Bolt on mod choice is critical, as is engine history etc. Tune needs to be spot on and don't risk any bolt on mods without a tune.

Mick


Best post of the thread since Chubbs rebuild post. Well said Mick! :ok:
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Re: Member Profile - chubbs

Postby jaydece » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:00 pm

JUST WOW!!!! :bb2: :clapping: :new_russian: :good:

It was a absolute pleasure reading your post mick/dr20t! You farking nailed it......
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