Member Profile - chubbs Update 10/9/16

[alexeiwoody]

More just reliability build. Im leaving the STI piston in. I had ARP head studs and bolts last time.

There are a few different ARP studs out there. Which ones are you using this time - because they're the only component holding your heads down.

E85 produces 50% more peak torque than 98 AND for a longer period of time...ARP2000s that you were running before, are pretty much a high risk stud to use with E85/big turbo/FMIC, they're right on the limit of their rigidity/strength - add a mistake by the tuner and you've lifted a head. Phil Lowe recommends ARP 625s on E85.

Sorry you have to go through this again - hopefully better luck (and studs) this time!

[jslayz]

Arp 625's are good

[owen]

Alexeiwoody..Phil Lowe was the one that put his shit together the first time with his recommended parts.

So I don't think it's luck or better studs he needs.

[chubbs]

Its coming together very quickly.

[alexeiwoody]

Alexeiwoody..Phil Lowe was the one that put his shit together the first time with his recommended parts.

So I don't think it's luck or better studs he needs.

Owen, if as a representative of RevZone you feel the need to constantly put down other businesses/people - people with a proven track record like Phil Lowe or MSR - to drum up business for RevZone and Kido tunes, then perhaps RevZone need a new representative.

Coincidentally about 5-6 months ago I was talking to Phil about E85 and how it can lift heads on stock motors, and I happened to mention Alex's car. It was around the time Alex first switched to E85. Phil expressed his concern that Alex is very likely to lift his heads on the 2000s running E85. He said if Alex had mentioned to him he was going to run E85, Phil would have insisted on stronger studs. This was even without a bigger turbo or a FMIC.

With my engine - Phil outright refused to use ARP2000 studs as he knew the engine would be run on ethanol and a bigger turbo. This was 6 months ago.


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This is yet another blown Kido tuned engine, and the FMIC was fitted at Revzone... it hasn't even been 6 months since your own Kido tuned engine had to be replaced, Owen. Apparently it wasn't the tuner's fault, since the engine was "perfect". Considering it normally costs around the $6,000-10,000 mark to replace an EJ engine - perfect engines are usually left inside the car.

A lifted head is primarily a tune problem (and a big one if it can stretch a 2000 stud). If it's just a case of not getting a retune fast enough for the FMIC...I bet neither RevZone nor Matt Kido have assumed any responsibility for letting the car roll around between the intercooler change and the tune.

The whole affair works out quite well for you and RevZone - they're now also getting paid to do the engine rebuild, I assume?

[imania]

Rebuild is not at Revzone. Stop pushing your own agenda Alexei, it's worn very thin. I know I'm not the only one tired of reading your confrontational retorts.

[chubbs]

Alexeiwoody..Phil Lowe was the one that put his shit together the first time with his recommended parts.

So I don't think it's luck or better studs he needs.

Owen, if as a representative of RevZone you feel the need to constantly put down other businesses/people - people with a proven track record like Phil Lowe or MSR - to drum up business for RevZone and Kido tunes, then perhaps RevZone need a new representative.

Coincidentally about 5-6 months ago I was talking to Phil about E85 and how it can lift heads on stock motors, and I happened to mention Alex's car. It was around the time Alex first switched to E85. Phil expressed his concern that Alex is very likely to lift his heads on the 2000s running E85. He said if Alex had mentioned to him he was going to run E85, Phil would have insisted on stronger studs. This was even without a bigger turbo or a FMIC.

With my engine - Phil outright refused to use ARP2000 studs as he knew the engine would be run on ethanol and a bigger turbo. This was 6 months ago.


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This is yet another blown Kido tuned engine, and the FMIC was fitted at Revzone... it hasn't even been 6 months since your own Kido tuned engine had to be replaced, Owen. Apparently it wasn't the tuner's fault, since the engine was "perfect". Considering it normally costs around the $6,000-10,000 mark to replace an EJ engine - perfect engines are usually left inside the car.

A lifted head is primarily a tune problem (and a big one if it can stretch a 2000 stud). If it's just a case of not getting a retune fast enough for the FMIC...I bet neither RevZone nor Matt Kido have assumed any responsibility for letting the car roll around between the intercooler change and the tune.

The whole affair works out quite well for you and RevZone - they're now also getting paid to do the engine rebuild, I assume?

For the record Alexie Owen/Revzone warned me I need a retune asap and it was me who delayed the retune. The heads lifting had nothing to do with revzones exceptional work and I would recommend them to anyone! Matts tuning wasnt the case either. Alexie have you ever had work done at revzone before? Are you aware of the quality of work they do? Phil did what I paid him to do. Im the one who pushed it with bigger turbo and other mods to lift the heads. Nothing to do with Matts tune or Owens work. And whats this shit about owens old engine. Your speaking of somwthing you know nothing about.......

[dr20t]

Sorry to hear of your fate

Definitely go 625+ headstuds this time around

Did the heads lift or was there another failure? If it was just heads why the short block?

Twice lifted head tells me one or more of a few things:

1. First time on stock motor was pushing too much boost / timing and thus cylinder pressure

2. Heads to block mating was not done properly (ie head studs not torqued correctly or incorrect stud for intended use) - given Phil Lowe built it, I very much doubt this is a cause

3. Tune was too aggressive second time around (again timing / boost related)

4. Cooling system compromised or not functioning efficiently for power, torque and cylinder pressure levels

5. Bad luck and another case of "Subaru - all to fuck the driver"

Good luck with it mate

Mick

[owen]

Alexei, it makes me laugh at how much you can write from knowing so little. Good job.

[alexeiwoody]

For the record Alexie Owen/Revzone warned me I need a retune asap and it was me who delayed the retune. The heads lifting had nothing to do with revzones exceptional work and I would recommend them to anyone! Matts tuning wasnt the case either. Alexie have you ever had work done at revzone before? Are you aware of the quality of work they do? Phil did what I paid him to do. Im the one who pushed it with bigger turbo and other mods to lift the heads. Nothing to do with Matts tune or Owens work. And whats this shit about owens old engine. Your speaking of somwthing you know nothing about.......

Good to hear about RevZone. I apologise if you thought I was questioning the quality of work, only how things should be done, to avoid a blown engine.

This being the 4th kido tuned lib on the forum (off the top of my head) this year alone needing a rebuild, unless you're a tuner yourself, I don't see how you can say there wasn't a problem. You're merely speculating that the problem happened while the car wasn't tuned. Kudos to you, IMO it's very generous of you.

As for Owen's engine - Matt sent me a few details about it, along with 4 other people. Even if I knew nothing, the point that a perfectly healthy EJ doesn't require replacement still stands.

[alexeiwoody]

Alexei, it makes me laugh at how much you can write from knowing so little. Good job.

Then the feeling is mutual

EDIT: The only assumption I made was that the rebuild is getting done at RZ, and it was a question if you look closely.

Everything else I believe is pretty factual. If you have a problem with any of it - please specify which part.

[TomTom]

Shame that you ran into issues again, I know the feeling that's for sure! Curious of what kind of kw you're chasing and had with the previous block?

Fingers crossed this build goes smoothly and youll be back on the road soon

[chubbs]

Sorry to hear of your fate

Definitely go 625+ headstuds this time around

Did the heads lift or was there another failure? If it was just heads why the short block?

Twice lifted head tells me one or more of a few things:

1. First time on stock motor was pushing too much boost / timing and thus cylinder pressure

2. Heads to block mating was not done properly (ie head studs not torqued correctly or incorrect stud for intended use) - given Phil Lowe built it, I very much doubt this is a cause

3. Tune was too aggressive second time around (again timing / boost related)

4. Cooling system compromised or not functioning efficiently for power, torque and cylinder pressure levels

5. Bad luck and another case of "Subaru - all to fuck the driver"

Good luck with it mate

Mick

There was no other failure other than the heads lifting. The reason for the shortblock is just to freshen up as my emgine has a few kms on it.

[owen]

Alexei, it makes me laugh at how much you can write from knowing so little. Good job.

Then the feeling is mutual

EDIT: The only assumption I made was that the rebuild is getting done at RZ, and it was a question if you look closely.

Everything else I believe is pretty factual. If you have a problem with any of it - please specify which part.

SO many assumptions.

Firstly you've assumed that by "I don't think it's luck or better studs he needs" I'm trying to put down another business/person - I simply stated that the person you recommended was the person who originally put his shit together using his recommended parts, which you've then gone on a rant to attack me and my business.

Then you've assumed that the front mount was installed by RevZone. It wasn't. Alex bought a kit that didn't fit and all we did was fabricate some pipes that let it fit.

Then you've assumed that my motor was fucked, and that I spent 6-10k to replace it. Lol. We have an STI in here that smashed a hole in his block. He needed a 2nd hand block for a fresh build, and having 160,000km on my EJ255, I was more than happy to do a swap for a brand new EJ257.

Whole affair working out well for me/Revzone? The only work Alex's car has had done with me is pipe fabrication and fitting a new turbo and catch can.

You should feel great about yourself now that you've wasted 10 mins of my life, you clearly have a lot more time to waste than I have. Over and out.

[alexeiwoody]

Firstly you've assumed that by "I don't think it's luck or better studs he needs" I'm trying to put down another business/person - I simply stated that the person you recommended was the person who originally put his shit together using his recommended parts, which you've then gone on a rant to attack me and my business.

You must have missed the persuasive language element in high school. Your statement comes across as if Phil recommended something wrong the first time. "He put his shit together with his recommended parts....(and now it's blown)...so screw his advice this time around" - not exactly neutral, to put it mildly.

This is called the implication of your choice of words. Not an assumption on my part.

You've definitely put down MSR before, when commenting about how many retunes Kido has to do for him. It seems you yourself like to talk about things you know very little about

Then you've assumed that the front mount was installed by RevZone. It wasn't. Alex bought a kit that didn't fit and all we did was fabricate some pipes that let it fit.

Ok, you win this one, but so what...?

Then you've assumed that my motor was fucked, and that I spent 6-10k to replace it. Lol. We have an STI in here that smashed a hole in his block. He needed a 2nd hand block for a fresh build, and having 160,000km on my EJ255, I was more than happy to do a swap for a brand new EJ257.

If you read my comment carefully - I said "considering it normally costs around 6-10k".... pointing out the effort required in swapping an engine for a newer one/major service etc. is fairly substantial. I never stated any assumptions about your own $$ expenses.

As for the engine, also not an assumption. I was directly told by Matt, still have the PM (and a few others who heard it from you) that you blokes diagnosed (apparently wrongly) your EJ255 with knock. Not surprisingly this version of the story actually makes sense while yours doesn't. If the STI guy had wanted a fresh base, he could have had one for very cheap. If your engine was without suspicion of being faulty - it would have stayed in your car.

You turned a shitty situation into a beneficial one for yourself, which is great. Just don't go on here and try and put a twist on it.

Whole affair working out well for me/Revzone? The only work Alex's car has had done with me is pipe fabrication and fitting a new turbo and catch can.

You certainly have your panties in a twist over something I was only asking about. I assume you don't like being attacked without basis. Perhaps in the future you'll refrain from doing so yourself first?

You should feel great about yourself now that you've wasted 10 mins of my life, you clearly have a lot more time to waste than I have. Over and out.

I assumed you were an adult and could decide how to spend your own time without blaming others for making you do things. Another assumption wrong, damn!

SO many assumptions.

I counted 2? It's ok. Sometimes big numbers overwhelm me too.




As for the frequency of kido libs getting engine rebuilds, I suppose you're right about it not being the studs or luck.