Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby Robbks » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:29 pm

google, win
http://www.frsport.com/Swift-4F008-Spor ... 62266.html
Swifts drop 30mm on a Standard GT (which is 15mm HIGHER than a GT-B)

so H&R would be similar

BUT
you would need to confirm that the spring perch heights are the same from stock struts to the Billies.
I know Phat had all kinds of issues with getting the S-Tech's to be the correct height on AUDM billies
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:55 pm

^ You are full of win :D !!

Cheers.

Regarding fitment, I found this thread: viewtopic.php?t=12211

Looks bloody brilliant, I just e-mailed nick from Entra. Hopefully I get a good response.

Found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Swift-Sport- ... e3e7c#shId

$570 Delivered.. A bit too much, Will wait for nicks response. Can get the H&R's for $480 and Tein S-Techs - $390.

I'm as confused as the OP :(
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby AndrewCowley » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:00 pm

markii wrote:Regarding fitment, I found this thread: viewtopic.php?t=12211

Good find. I have an MY04 GT with Bilsteins purchased from WheelPower back in the day. Would they be the same Bilsteins featured in the car in that thread? If so then would it be safe to assume I'd get the same result?
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby Robbks » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:02 pm

AndrewCowley wrote:Good find. I have an MY04 GT with Bilsteins purchased from WheelPower back in the day. Would they be the same Bilsteins featured in the car in that thread? If so then would it be safe to assume I'd get the same result?


correcto!
assuming same spec vehicle with same accessories.
towbar is pretty heavy over the back end
and later models with 6 speeds or any auto will be a bit fatter than the 5 speed variants, so you could expect 5mm variance
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:08 pm

Hmm Looks like the Swifts might be the go, Don't really want to spend more than $500 on them. I got a MY08 3.0RB Auto.
So I'm hoping to get that same/similar ride height.
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby AndrewCowley » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:09 pm

Would love to see a picture of the Tein S Techs and the Swifts side by side.
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:15 pm

I don't mind the S-Techs at all, Just worried about the ride "harshness", would pay more for comfort <3 !
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby fatfrog02 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:55 pm

Hey OP,

I have had both Tein S-Techs and Swift springs.
Bearing in mind I have a wagon, but I took some measurements.

CWTG
Standard GTB Front 360mm Rear 360mm
S-Techs Front 340mm Rear 320mm
Swifts Front 340mm Rear 340mm.

Swift state their springs are a 20mm Drop and this is about spot on. Swifts also come in sedan and wagon specific so check the model number.
S-Techs are suppose to be a 30mm Drop. Being a wagon, the rear on mine may be a lot more drop then sedan.
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:52 am

^ Thanks for the info, How would you rate both in terms of comfort? :)
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby alessandro132 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:58 pm

Just go coilovers - I'm running BC BRs with dampening just a hair over halfway F+R and spring rates are 6kg/mm F and 8kg/mm R (FYI stock Bilstein spring rates are 4kg/mm F, 5kg/mm R).

I wouldn't describe them as harsh but they are firmer than the old Bilstein combo and far less vertical squat upon acceleration and deceleration which I love.

Best thing about the coilovers is that you can set the height to the millimetre and fiddle around with dampening rates until you're happy with the ride :)
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:43 pm

alessandro132 wrote:Just go coilovers - I'm running BC BRs with dampening just a hair over halfway F+R and spring rates are 6kg/mm F and 8kg/mm R (FYI stock Bilstein spring rates are 4kg/mm F, 5kg/mm R).

I wouldn't describe them as harsh but they are firmer than the old Bilstein combo and far less vertical squat upon acceleration and deceleration which I love.

Best thing about the coilovers is that you can set the height to the millimetre and fiddle around with dampening rates until you're happy with the ride :)


I'm not one to dabble into the 1k+ mark for suspension that will only be daily driven.
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby seanmau5 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:38 pm

markii wrote:
alessandro132 wrote:Just go coilovers - I'm running BC BRs with dampening just a hair over halfway F+R and spring rates are 6kg/mm F and 8kg/mm R (FYI stock Bilstein spring rates are 4kg/mm F, 5kg/mm R).

I wouldn't describe them as harsh but they are firmer than the old Bilstein combo and far less vertical squat upon acceleration and deceleration which I love.

Best thing about the coilovers is that you can set the height to the millimetre and fiddle around with dampening rates until you're happy with the ride :)


I'm not one to dabble into the 1k+ mark for suspension that will only be daily driven.
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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby Brunsy3.0 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:00 pm

I was just about to start a similar thread am looking for the same thing

have been umming and arrghing over getting the phat edition s-techs teins, but have been a bit hesitant as i'd like to sit in one before I make purchase on something I m\ay regret, the roads up here are pretty bad so a much harsher ride is something that I don't wish to have

i'll be keeping my eye on here to see what people come up with

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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby markii » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:37 am

Hahaha Sean, I wish!.. I already bought a few goodies!

About to buy a set of Swift Springs but the supplier hasn't got to much info about them on a 3.0RB because they are springs for the GT?
He is worried about the dampening?

Seen them on a GTB/Auto.. would a 3.0RB/Auto vary significantly?

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Re: Bilsteins & Tein S Techs - Sick of harsh ride - Options?

Postby fatfrog02 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:46 am

markii wrote:^ Thanks for the info, How would you rate both in terms of comfort? :)


In terms of comfort.
Std GTB 9/10
STi 7/10
Swift 8/10
S-Tech 5/10 maybe even 4/10

This is only my opinion and what my be good for me may be terrible for someone else.
Try some pricing for Swift springs from the states, I found it a lot cheaper to import than get them local.
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