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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Tue May 07, 2013 6:53 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:It would be fantastic if both scaling for correct road speed display and upsize injector/fuel use scaling could both be corrected without affecting the odometer etc.


The odometer is out, if say 100kph dash speed is 90 road speed, the odometer would read 66,000kms before you have actually travelled 60,000kms. Subaru have done warranty work on cars at 65000, purely as the car had not travelled 60,000kms on the road ;)

Changing the speedo makes the odometer more accurate as well :)
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby bigBADbenny » Tue May 07, 2013 7:10 pm

Great, I had thought based on previous discussions here that postFL speedos deiberately read "under" and that the odometer was accurate. Either way, bring it on! :)
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby <GB> » Tue May 07, 2013 9:12 pm

With my car the speedo is pretty close with the slightly bigger Tyres though having bigger diameter Tyres means less power ha he ha

Ben I said to Bruce that his car will put on more km faster if he fixes it!! Plus it could be used for evil and adjust so it reads even slower and less km build up.....
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby owen » Tue May 07, 2013 9:25 pm

I was just talking to Bruce about this last night. Odo is definitely off by however much your speedo is off. I confirmed it using my gps on the way to and from sydney
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Tue May 07, 2013 10:25 pm

OK, I am making a conscience vote on this table... negative values wind back the odometer = bad.
As an example, multiplying the value by say -5000 would mean you could drive down the end of the street and back shave 10,000km's off the odometer including the ECU stored odometer(speedo does not work, just sits on zero but odometer winds back)

Need to discuss with Dale(dschultz) about preventing this from being easily abused.
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby SegR » Tue May 07, 2013 10:51 pm

Wow. That's some fucked up ECU programming on Subaru's part.
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby <GB> » Tue May 07, 2013 11:17 pm

There are people that can whizz them? Are you positive neg values will make them go down? I don't think it's that needed
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby alexeiwoody » Tue May 07, 2013 11:21 pm

Anyone want to buy a mint my07 lgt with 20,000 only on the clock? Car mostly used as a weight to push during exercise.

And have fun explaining to subaru Australia how your car went from 160k to 100k if it ever ends up at a dealership again :)
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Tue May 07, 2013 11:47 pm

I wanted to test it in EcuFlash and used -1.035

Speedo did not function, drove down the street(about 5 houses) and lost 0.1Km's before I stopped since speedo was also not functioning. -5000 might not work but even a value of -100 could raise eyebrows with the Police/Subaru/potential buyers.

1.035 worked for me though
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby Rome_BRZ » Wed May 08, 2013 9:14 am

KiDo_Tuning wrote:I wanted to test it in EcuFlash and used -1.035

Speedo did not function, drove down the street(about 5 houses) and lost 0.1Km's before I stopped since speedo was also not functioning. -5000 might not work but even a value of -100 could raise eyebrows with the Police/Subaru/potential buyers.

1.035 worked for me though


Interesting developments. Lucky I'm not planning on buying a used Canbus Subaru anytime soon!
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby bigBADbenny » Thu May 09, 2013 8:47 am

Image
W :mrgreen: :mrgreen: t! No retune required for the muffs upgrade...
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby shav » Thu May 09, 2013 10:44 am

bigBADbenny wrote:Image
W :mrgreen: :mrgreen: t! No retune required for the muffs upgrade...
Next steps:
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2nd 100cell cat on dump and coated EL SS headers.

Awesome work Ben. Keen on seeing what you do for the water spray.
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby <GB> » Thu May 23, 2013 9:41 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:
jacks-GTB wrote:Image


Better to do an LV after a full throttle power run and with Engine Coolant Temp above 87 degrees. Before 6am in the morning on cold car(IAT below 20 degrees) clears FLKC corrections to ensure timing is not retarded during extreme cold start :)

Also, with FLKC column 0-<1.00, it will always be zero as there is no FLKC in that region if the FLKC Range(Load) table starts at 1.3g/rev :)

I just did a learning view and it didnt clear flkc when coolant temp was at 67deg c and iat at 16deg c

Can you explain why my car still had timing pulled in flkc when you're saying it clears it under those conditions?
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Thu May 23, 2013 10:15 pm

<GB> wrote:
KiDo_Tuning wrote:
jacks-GTB wrote:Image


Better to do an LV after a full throttle power run and with Engine Coolant Temp above 87 degrees. Before 6am in the morning on cold car(IAT below 20 degrees) clears FLKC corrections to ensure timing is not retarded during extreme cold start :)

Also, with FLKC column 0-<1.00, it will always be zero as there is no FLKC in that region if the FLKC Range(Load) table starts at 1.3g/rev :)

I just did a learning view and it didnt clear flkc when coolant temp was at 67deg c and iat at 16deg c

Can you explain why my car still had timing pulled in flkc when you're saying it clears it under those conditions?


Because your car is missing a vital component... secondary air injection air pump that needs timing locked. Even with it removed, the ECU logic is still there and active.

Also, coolant temp has to be a LOT lower than 67 or it would happen on every car morning start :P
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Re: Learning View Snapshots \ Discussions

Postby bass_straitener » Thu May 23, 2013 10:22 pm

Agree with Matt with regards to the above.

When ECT is much lower and IAT is low it does clear the FLKC table temporarily.

I've seen this happen too.
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