My H6 transformed

[SH30RB]

I fail to see the point of this thread.

quite a few guys with heavily modified H4's carrying on in a H6 NA thread... feel free to argue in your own engine specific threads fella's

[dr20t]

Sorry everyone I honestly was not having a dig at the guy who said his car broke traction

I believe it if he says so.

No harm intended - honest

Good luck to the h6 clan

[Robbks]

other tuners don't seem to have such bad feed back

Ever seen feedback for MRT......
Search for posts by Jim and the lunched pistons from his new motor...

and "outrageous power claims"
Pulse Racing getting 195KW ATW from a VF35 on 17psi...

I don't care about any of them or how good/ bad Matt';s work is
and will be working with a local tuner who has never touched a Subaru H6 before when i get off my backside and organise it.

Point is, one bloke is now happy with his car.. and no matter how "bad" people may think the tune is, can't be worse than the stock dogsh!t that Subaru have put in there
those of us that drive one on a stock tune everyday KNOW what they're like for more than 10 minutes at a time.
Great fun when you're up it at 3500rpm+, doughy and rattly under 2500.
They use sh!tloads of fuel anytime you have to change gears more than once a minute, and will use nothing doing 120KM/h up the highway.

Can we get a single stickied thread created called "xxx's tune was sh!t" and confine it all to there. Makes it easy for new members to find
anyone that has a bad experience can leave their comment in there and b!tch away to their hearts content.

/rant
/thread

lets do some heli's....

[HoFF]

other tuners don't seem to have such bad feed back

Ever seen feedback for MRT......
Search for posts by Jim and the lunched pistons from his new motor...

and "outrageous power claims"
Pulse Racing getting 195KW ATW from a VF35 on 17psi...

I don't care about any of them or how good/ bad Matt';s work is
and will be working with a local tuner who has never touched a Subaru H6 before when i get off my backside and organise it.

Point is, one bloke is now happy with his car.. and no matter how "bad" people may think the tune is, can't be worse than the stock dogsh!t that Subaru have put in there
those of us that drive one on a stock tune everyday KNOW what they're like for more than 10 minutes at a time.
Great fun when you're up it at 3500rpm+, doughy and rattly under 2500.
They use sh!tloads of fuel anytime you have to change gears more than once a minute, and will use nothing doing 120KM/h up the highway.

Can we get a single stickied thread created called "xxx's tune was sh!t" and confine it all to there. Makes it easy for new members to find
anyone that has a bad experience can leave their comment in there and b!tch away to their hearts content.

/rant
/thread

lets do some heli's....

I like this guy

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[paggaz]

^^ That video is pr0nz

[6Banger]

Im with 6banger/cam on this one...everyone deserves to post their honest opinion, without getting crap for it.

Mentioning breaking traction probably stirred a few of us up, since ive been in Bruces car with 200ish atw and we never once broke traction. If we're talking about cornering then even stock tune loses grip wirh body roll.

Good to hear the extra power is there for cam, interested to hear about the fuel ec and if any pinging occurs?

Thanks , the power increase is noticable by my seat of the pants dyno , I'm already seeing an improvement in the economy , and i'm not aware of any pinging it is accounted for in the tune, I'm thinking the tune coupled with use of the 100 cell cats, (they were an increase in performance and worth the money) as is this tune even without the economy improvement it would've been worth it for the grin factor,

regards cam

[owen]

All you auto drivers spinning tyres on the kido tune must have complementary pizza cutters that come with the tune.
The only time I can really break traction is in S#, 22.8 psi boost and 250kw, full steering lock and clutch dump at 5000rpm.

[alexeiwoody]

Im with 6banger/cam on this one...everyone deserves to post their honest opinion, without getting crap for it.

Mentioning breaking traction probably stirred a few of us up, since ive been in Bruces car with 200ish atw and we never once broke traction. If we're talking about cornering then even stock tune loses grip wirh body roll.

Good to hear the extra power is there for cam, interested to hear about the fuel ec and if any pinging occurs?

Thanks , the power increase is noticable by my seat of the pants dyno , I'm already seeing an improvement in the economy , and i'm not aware of any pinging it is accounted for in the tune, I'm thinking the tune coupled with use of the 100 cell cats, (they were an increase in performance and worth the money) as is this tune even without the economy improvement it would've been worth it for the grin factor,

regards cam

That sounds fair enough. I actually had pretty good fuel economy after my second kido tune, except a recent pressure test revealed one of my cylinders may have been running too lean. As the maff scaling was always a bit off/lean on that tune and revisions...all because I had a road tune and no wideband O2 sensor like on a dyno. Now it's bye bye stock engine. So tread carefully guys, whilst the seat of your pants may feel good - dont play with fuel economy without a dyno and O2 sensors. My $2500 and 2 cents, for any engine type/size.

How much did you pay for the cats?

[KiDo_Tuning]

I find it funny that Bruce cannot get wheelspin yet H-Are's phatass Forester XT with a VF52 on stock headers spins 19" sticky rubber... hell, Fabians LGT is stock with just a 3 port and spins the wheels. Even PinkK's LGT chirps in 1st gear
That said... I did find 6 interesting tables in the TBSTi LGT ECU the other day, suddenly a TBSTi with just a 3 port picked up 200rpm more spool and also chirps in 1st gear.

That sounds fair enough. I actually had pretty good fuel economy after my second kido tune, except a recent pressure test revealed one of my cylinders may have been running too lean. As the maff scaling was always a bit off/lean on that tune and revisions...all because I had a road tune and no wideband O2 sensor like on a dyno. Now it's bye bye stock engine. So tread carefully guys, whilst the seat of your pants may feel good - dont play with fuel economy without a dyno and O2 sensors. My $2500 and 2 cents, for any engine type/size.

How much did you pay for the cats?

Hang on... your 'stock tunes' were always running safely rich (MAF scaling also confirmed on the dyno it was running lightly rich) and the AF corrections are negatives because the tune was slightly rich at cruise to bring the mixture back to stoich via the factory O2 sensor. If any cylinder was down on the dyno, it would have shown up on knock ears with a misfire/tap on boost Do you really think one cylinder running lean on a dyno with AFR's shows up...
Also, the per injector pulsewidth table shows cylinders do run different flow rates for a reason

All you auto drivers spinning tyres on the kido tune must have complementary pizza cutters that come with the tune.
The only time I can really break traction is in S#, 22.8 psi boost and 250kw, full steering lock and clutch dump at 5000rpm.

Yeah, must not be your 4 rubber squiggly lines that got left on the road that time with the VF46 in September last year...

[owen]

Matt..I want say that the tune you gave me was good, there was no knock and bizarre tables or dtcs turned off that other members experienced, and the only problem I have with you is your blatant lack of service after you've been paid.
However, I wouldn't be relating a bit of front wheel slip off the line during a 4500rpm clutch dump, to a basically stock auto H6..
As for squiggly lines, I think that's a little bit of an exaggeration, as I have tried numerous times to lay them with no luck, not in my 250kw lib, nor my 330kw evo.
If you truly believe that the near stock awd cars that you're tuning are capable of leaving squiggly rubber lines down the highway, I think you may need to see somebody regarding a delusional condition.

[alexeiwoody]

My point exactly. The dyno showed it up with the knock ears and the o2 sensor. Otherwise we wouldn't have known for sure. Not having a go at you matt, but at tuning on the road. Logging a few runs and expecting a perfect tune just doesn't make sense. Even if you're a safe tuner, I know you value your safety, I've seen it myself and will back that to anyone. Matt doesn't do bs things when it comes to safety he sets it up by the book.

However - mistakes have creeped in many times into our tunes. After our 5 hr dyno tune, I still couldn't shift out of 1st on WOT (boost spike every time). I know this is turbo related not H6, still I felt alot safer after a dyno - knock ears and o2 sensor. You put me at ease with those. And still that tune had a mistake in it, boost spikes are not good for your engine. Can we say for sure it hasn't contributed to the cylinder pressure being low? Of course it made things worse.

So even though I respect you as a tuner, for turbo cars at the very least, a 30min or 1 hr road tune just doesn't make sense. Dr0t can back me up. When I etune - i spend at least 7 runs logging for 15 mins and a pull in between. That would take 3 hours done back to back, counter in time to adjust maps - closer to 4 hrs. And still not a perfect tune, but safe.

Sorry to high jack the thread guys. Just so you know what to ask from your tuner. Cheers.

Off to do some helis in my magna.

[Sgottlieb]

I find it funny that Bruce cannot get wheelspin yet H-Are's phatass Forester XT with a VF52 on stock headers spins 19" sticky rubber... hell, Fabians LGT is stock with just a 3 port and spins the wheels. Even PinkK's LGT chirps in 1st gear
That said... I did find 6 interesting tables in the TBSTi LGT ECU the other day, suddenly a TBSTi with just a 3 port picked up 200rpm more spool and also chirps in 1st gear.

Are you talking about H-Are's SH9 that you don't tune anymore?

[bass_straitener]

I find it funny that Bruce cannot get wheelspin yet H-Are's phatass Forester XT with a VF52 on stock headers spins 19" sticky rubber... hell, Fabians LGT is stock with just a 3 port and spins the wheels. Even PinkK's LGT chirps in 1st gear
That said... I did find 6 interesting tables in the TBSTi LGT ECU the other day, suddenly a TBSTi with just a 3 port picked up 200rpm more spool and also chirps in 1st gear.

Are you talking about H-Are's SH9 that you don't tune anymore?

Please be careful Simon, don't pick up and report on Matt's falsehoods. SH30RB, the other Simon, and Kieran interpret that as not letting go.

SH30RB and chaotic2050 have that covered for 20 year old individuals selling secondhand/new parts. A business that reports BS like the above is supposedly a protected species or reporting should only be limited to 1 thread. Should the BS span multiple threads apparently the 1 thread policy of SH30RB comes into play. Will have to get Ric to add that to the forum rules.

For those really interested in the truth, H-are was tuned by Matt, but the tuning was going nowhere after multiple revisions with both boost spikes and knock reported on logs. All sorted since he's moved to Torqued Performance and has more power up top.

Since Matt has all the answers lets see why is he now locking all his H6 tune revisions and only getting Bryce to install them. Making it difficult for anyone, including owners, to read. Hiding something?

Funny also is the fact that I won't spin the wheels to demonstrate my cars power to fellow forum members is seen as can't do it. I call it being responsible at 3:20pm driving through an area with multiple school zones.

[KiDo_Tuning]

Please be careful Simon, don't pick up and report on Matt's falsehoods. SH30RB, the other Simon, and Kieran interpret that as not letting go.

SH30RB and chaotic2050 have that covered for 20 year old individuals selling secondhand/new parts. A business that reports BS like the above is supposedly a protected species or reporting should only be limited to 1 thread. Should the BS span multiple threads apparently the 1 thread policy of SH30RB comes into play. Will have to get Ric to add that to the forum rules.

For those really interested in the truth, H-are was tuned by Matt, but the tuning was going nowhere after multiple revisions with both boost spikes and knock reported on logs. All sorted since he's moved to Torqued Performance and has more power up top.

Since Matt has all the answers lets see why is he now locking all his H6 tune revisions and only getting Bryce to install them. Making it difficult for anyone, including owners, to read. Hiding something?

Funny also is the fact that I won't spin the wheels to demonstrate my cars power to fellow forum members is seen as can't do it. I call it being responsible at 3:20pm driving through an area with multiple school zones.

H-Are had the knock if you bother reading the forum(which you obviously do) because of a loose ignition coil/spark plug. Surprisingly common. Oddly enough, he is back on my tune after the dyno as it just feels better to drive(again in his forum comments) and yes, I made more power than TP's tune even on my base tune despite running less peak power boost.

Locking the tunes? Not locked Bruce, just write only which is to stop the hundreds of hours invested in a non-open source patch becoming public... that is the only thing it is protecting. I am not doing it to all tunes, only the ones with the patch since lets face it, if a car gets serviced at a workshop and they download the tune, they get the patched tune as well which can be used on other cars If the car needs an urgent retune for any reason, an unpatched tune can be loaded over the top.

Bruce, stop the BS... You claimed I was blowing up engines and 5EAT's in the USA which is total BS and you know it. Not one person... although there is plenty of dyno tuned auto cars here showing massive low rpm auto clutch pack slip

[KiDo_Tuning]

Owen: T intersection at Gellies/Wildwood Road, turning left. 2000rpm clutch dump and rubber dropped. 2 cars after yours saw the 4 black lines.

I find it funny that Bruce cannot get wheelspin yet H-Are's phatass Forester XT with a VF52 on stock headers spins 19" sticky rubber... hell, Fabians LGT is stock with just a 3 port and spins the wheels. Even PinkK's LGT chirps in 1st gear
That said... I did find 6 interesting tables in the TBSTi LGT ECU the other day, suddenly a TBSTi with just a 3 port picked up 200rpm more spool and also chirps in 1st gear.

Are you talking about H-Are's SH9 that you don't tune anymore?

LOL
Check again. The recent Virtual Dyno with the torque dip at 4800rpm? One tweak, all fixed.