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[KiDo_Tuning]

Hate to say it but nearly every car u tune has wheel spin!! I find this hard to believe as mine has great traction...!!!

Considering I have a linear 3D Target boost curve in my tunes which gives a linear power delivery rather than an all or nothing power with 5psi jumping to maximum boost style tuning method like so many tune into the cars... The all or nothing delivery gives a massive torque shock loading which stresses mechanical components like gearboxes, clutches and yes... engine stress. Wow, I could make my life soooooo freaking easy and tune for on/off with a simple target boost increase for max boost, tweak fuel, timing etc and be done and yet I took the hard way of having a progressive boost curve and taking on the challenge of DBW.

It is possible to have torque at low boost since we all know the car had torque on the factory boost level

[alexeiwoody]

Got my car back today from Hallam Performance. Tcp full tbe is on

This is what the car came back with after install...note: it went into the workshop with 0 flkc. I didn't have a chance to load Matt's tbe tune until after install and this is what it read straight after

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Went for a few pulls and logged them, sent logs to Matt. LV after pulls. Note driving in S not S#.

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They were hard pulls. So far so good

[<GB>]

Don't u need to do learning view after driving it in s# for a while and not s as it doesn't give the same dbw and torque request? Can anyone confirm?

[<GB>]

Hate to say it but nearly every car u tune has wheel spin!! I find this hard to believe as mine has great traction...!!!

Considering I have a linear 3D Target boost curve in my tunes which gives a linear power delivery rather than an all or nothing power with 5psi jumping to maximum boost style tuning method like so many tune into the cars... The all or nothing delivery gives a massive torque shock loading which stresses mechanical components like gearboxes, clutches and yes... engine stress. Wow, I could make my life soooooo freaking easy and tune for on/off with a simple target boost increase for max boost, tweak fuel, timing etc and be done and yet I took the hard way of having a progressive boost curve and taking on the challenge of DBW.

It is possible to have torque at low boost since we all know the car had torque on the factory boost level

I don't know how this really answers my question ?

[3rspecb]

LV from yesterday . A Few hard runs in the heat..

New intake pipe fitted along with the WTA Cooler (no retune as yet and silly for me to rev it out, but its bloody hard not too ).

Tuner is Cihan Aday and the car is running great with no issues so far.


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[dr20t]

Good work

Bruce and GB - I rethought about what I said and we're both right - ill explain how when I get home

Mick

[alexeiwoody]

Getting a bit of knock now on the LV. Maybe noise. But considering it's in S - that's pretty loud noise. If you catch my drift. Secondary air pump Cel is flashing, not a biggie (or so I was told) but annoying. Fuel economy better. Not good yet. Logs have a few issues at 5000rpm. Cam phasing?

Matt seems to be busy, and in the meantime I have to use my car to get to work, gfs, camp every day. To log my car I have to do crazy shit on the freeway. And my tuner has 100s of other customers and a fulltime job. This is a waste of time and a good engine and my tuner can't check for mechanical problems, and has to guess what they are and adjust the tune which when wrong knock my engine more.

Matt, either show me some massive improvements in the tune (no knock in S would be nice? In S# would be even better!) soon or I'm asking for a refund.

I know you're super busy, and it's selfish of me, but I paid you to be my tuner. Hope you understand.

[<GB>]

Whats the learning view like?

[alexeiwoody]

Not so bad a 1.51 in 3rd vertical column (load) at about 3000rpm

But I've previously never had knock in S. Not even noise. That's even when S# was fkd. Imagine how fkd s# would be now

Just crap cuz my car is a daily and I've been trying to get it healthy for weeks now

[Aidos]

Getting a bit of knock now on the LV. Maybe noise. But considering it's in S - that's pretty loud noise. If you catch my drift. Secondary air pump Cel is flashing, not a biggie (or so I was told) but annoying. Fuel economy better. Not good yet. Logs have a few issues at 5000rpm. Cam phasing?

Matt seems to be busy, and in the meantime I have to use my car to get to work, gfs, camp every day. To log my car I have to do crazy shit on the freeway. And my tuner has 100s of other customers and a fulltime job. This is a waste of time and a good engine and my tuner can't check for mechanical problems, and has to guess what they are and adjust the tune which when wrong knock my engine more.

Matt, either show me some massive improvements in the tune (no knock in S would be nice? In S# would be even better!) soon or I'm asking for a refund.

I know you're super busy, and it's selfish of me, but I paid you to be my tuner. Hope you understand.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is my one and only question mark in regards to using this tuner. He seems like he can do such good work. But i don't think i can risk this happening.

Did your original tune get done on a dyno or road tune by him?

[bigBADbenny]

Question: does logging on a freeway on ramp need to be "nuts"?

I take it easy, just get the car into 3rd at around 50-60kph and accelerate to around 110-120Kph before lifting.
Or lift at 100 if heavy ish traffic.
Pretty similar to normal driving without the earlier shift up...
Since DBW max reqested torque is at around 50-70% throttle (angle or less) its not particularly difficult to get the car moving ... Or am I missing something?

[Kekotic]

Question: does logging on a freeway on ramp need to be "nuts"?

I take it easy, just get the car into 3rd at around 50-60kph and accelerate to around 110-120Kph before lifting.
Or lift at 100 if heavy ish traffic.
Pretty similar to normal driving without the earlier shift up...
Since DBW max reqested torque is at around 50-70% throttle (angle or less) its not particularly difficult to get the car moving ... Or am I missing something?

3rd gear 60km/h to redline is what I was told. But I have been logging 1st, 4th and 5th too. Although not 5th to redline..... I think that might be like 220km/h!

[Kekotic]

I took an LV tonight after giving the car a thrashing in Sport Sharp.



Matt says he is working on a newer revision for my tune this weekend, and then I'll be seeing him when he is back in Melbourne for some dyno tuning to finish the tune off!

[bigBADbenny]

Latest revision, loaded this eve, driven gently for 30min, then 3rd gear logged in all modes.
Just taking a peek at those logs now.
Car feels just great!

[<GB>]

Not so bad a 1.51 in 3rd vertical column (load) at about 3000rpm

But I've previously never had knock in S. Not even noise. That's even when S# was fkd. Imagine how fkd s# would be now

Just crap cuz my car is a daily and I've been trying to get it healthy for weeks now

U going tO drive it in i mode? That's probably safer