Any help with this model?

[Booslee]

Hi all, new to the place, but I've been looking at Libertys for a while now, and came across one on sale near where I live. Having a look at the pictures I noticed the air-con controls aren't electronic like I see on other Libs but old school dials. This is on a 2006 Lib by the way. So I'm just wondering if this is some really basic model, or has the owner done something to it?

[seanmau5]

I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium

[Booslee]

Yeah, I've been looking out for a black Luxury/premium Lib, but i've had no hits at the moment. Thanks for the help anyways

[Robbks]

Spend a bit more on a 3.0R-B

Fixed for accuracy

[seanmau5]

Lol yes I agree Rob, a 3.0.. And I disagree with your choice of colour, if I could start all over again I'd be ditching the black

[Booslee]

Dunno how to drive manual (whole family only drives auto ) and I think spending that amount of money on a 3.0R-B to learn manual is risky. And that said the auto 3.0Rs are a bit out of my price range (taking into consideration rego, insurance etc)

[d-chang]

I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium

Hey guys! Hmm... this is a weird one... because my car is a 2.0R with climate control... there must be different variations with the 2.0R... Booslee, that Liberty you were looking at, did it have fog lights and a dual exhaust?

The only thing I can think of between this model and mine.... even though they are called the same... may have a couple of added features. For example, mine is also a 2.0R, but it came with a dual exhaust system, climate control and fog lights.

[seanmau5]

I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium

Hey guys! Hmm... this is a weird one... because my car is a 2.0R with climate control... there must be different variations with the 2.0R... Booslee, that Liberty you were looking at, did it have fog lights and a dual exhaust?

The only thing I can think of between this model and mine.... even though they are called the same... may have a couple of added features. For example, mine is also a 2.0R, but it came with a dual exhaust system, climate control and fog lights.

Safety pack, luxury pack & premium pack (combination of the 2)

[Booslee]

Thanks for all the replies guys, but turns out this car belonged to Adam from this forum! I also coincidentally found his For Sale thread as well, after spotting it on carsales.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16052

Basically the deal fell through. I was going to buy the car. Despite my first dibs on inspection, and Adam's promise to honor the price as stated in the thread, the car was sold for a bit more an hour before our planned inspection. While in the end he's allowed to sell to the highest offer, I have to admit I'm quite disappointed (to say the least) at how it went down.

[mihai]

Just for future reference.

The model that was for sale was a 2.0i. The 2.0i had single exhaust, no fog lights and no climate control.

The 2.0R had dual exhausts, fog lights, and climate control.

The other difference is that the 2.0i had less power than the 2.5i's whereas the 2.0R's have the same power in kW as the 2.5i's but less torque.

[Booslee]

Yeah I noticed it was the most basic model after I asked Adam a few questions -lack of foglights, climate control, as well as a mention of a swapped exhaust system. He did mention he swapped the engine after he blew the first one. Whether or not he kept it back as a 2.0i or went to a 2.0R is unknown however.

[d-chang]

Just for future reference.

The model that was for sale was a 2.0i. The 2.0i had single exhaust, no fog lights and no climate control.

The 2.0R had dual exhausts, fog lights, and climate control.

The other difference is that the 2.0i had less power than the 2.5i's whereas the 2.0R's have the same power in kW as the 2.5i's but less torque.

Ahhh! Well that has shed light on the matter! Thanks Mihai for the history lesson! How much less torque are we talking about?

[mihai]

Ahhh! Well that has shed light on the matter! Thanks Mihai for the history lesson! How much less torque are we talking about?

The 2.5i's have 226Nm @ 4400RPM with 121kW @ 5600RPM
The 2.0R's have 187Nm @ 3200RPM with 121kW @ 6800RPM
The 2.0i's have 187Nm @ 4400 RPM with 101kW @ 5600RPM

[Deep Heat]

The 2.5i's have 226Nm @ 4400RPM with 121kW @ 5600RPM
The 2.0R's have 187Nm @ 3200RPM with 121kW @ 6800RPM
The 2.0i's have 187Nm @ 4400 RPM with 101kW @ 5600RPM

The latter 2.5i's (2007 onwards I think) had 127kW @ 6000rpm and 226Nm @ 4400rpm