150k Service - Brake Pads

Posts specific to the 3.0 litre NA H6 engine

150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Nick3.0R-B » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:09 pm

gday lads

Got my 150k serviced coming up. Brakes are abit scratchy at times so ill replace the discs and pads also.

I got the disc sizes:
Front 316mm
Rae 290mm

But im struggling to find the pad sizes for the 3.0rb range..

If any1 has the size / model numbber that would be great.

BTW..the cars still running like new :)
Last edited by Nick3.0R-B on Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Nick3.0R-B
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY05 Liberty 3.0R-B
Real name: Nick

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby HoFF » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:18 pm

Front disc's are 316mm not 390mm.

What disc's are you getting and how much? I think mine are slightly warped and I have my 150k service coming up as well
User avatar
HoFF
-stickered-
 
Posts: 1447
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:39 am
Location: Southern Highlands NSW
Car: MY06 3RB Liberty Wagon 6MT MY09 Foz
Real name: Tom
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13577&start=255

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Nick3.0R-B » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:35 pm

massive typo...yeh 316mm...oops
User avatar
Nick3.0R-B
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY05 Liberty 3.0R-B
Real name: Nick

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Nick3.0R-B » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:22 pm

User avatar
Nick3.0R-B
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY05 Liberty 3.0R-B
Real name: Nick

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby 3rspecb » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:40 am

Nick3.0R-B wrote:http://www.bendix.com.au/catalogue/9864
Found it :D


DB1722 is correct for the front calipers but DB1803 is the wrong pad shape for the rear calipers. It should be DB1379.

I sent then an email a while ago advising the error but it looks like they have done nothing.
MY06 3rspecb manual sedan, Urban Grey- Shockworks Coilovers '- Gone

MY17 SSv Redline, manual sedan, White.
3rspecb
 
Posts: 1342
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:59 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY17 SSv Redline
Real name: G

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Nick3.0R-B » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:48 am

OOhh really? can i get this confirmed?

cheers
User avatar
Nick3.0R-B
 
Posts: 145
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:39 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY05 Liberty 3.0R-B
Real name: Nick

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Tradewind » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:08 pm

Didnt know we could get Brembo pads

Seems we can, even if this isnt the specific part for the 3.0 - maybe someone can confirm

I have only ever tried Brembo pads once, I took a USED front set from a KTM 450 SXF and put them in the front caliper of my Suzuki RM125 06 and the braking performance improved out of sight - amazing transformation. If same transformation can occur with Liberty with a Brembo pads then I would be SOLD on the idea totally

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rear-BREMBO- ... 3f10762160

And the price is very good for Brembo stuff
2015 Liberty 3.6R (6GEN) - Raptor headers and Raptor SUPER MAF
Tradewind
 
Posts: 2040
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:00 pm
Location: Gordonvale Qld
Car: Grey MY15 6GEN 3.6R - Raptor MAF
Real name: Tim

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Farugah » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:12 pm

So thats brembo pads for our stock brakes? What kind of rotors would you run with them? Im looking at doing my brakes and Im not really keen on doing the whole Brembo path as I dont want to change wheels at this point.
User avatar
Farugah
 
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:10 pm
Location: Parramatta
Car: MY05 3.0RB Sedan Black
Real name: Kyall

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Tradewind » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:24 pm

These are pads for Stock Rotors

I used Brembo pads on stock rotors on dirtbike in woeful conditions and the Brembo pad is AMAZING

At the end of the day a reasonable caliper is needed, but the pad is doing the stopping together with the rotor, so long the rotor can dissipate enough heat and pads are right makeup then you can have pretty awesome brakes.

At the price - these would be a really decent upgrade over stock pads and would certainly stop much better.

A full Brembo setup would see a much larger pad and make most of its gains there, but I can see from experience that the pad alone is a big difference - especially if its BREMBO.
2015 Liberty 3.6R (6GEN) - Raptor headers and Raptor SUPER MAF
Tradewind
 
Posts: 2040
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:00 pm
Location: Gordonvale Qld
Car: Grey MY15 6GEN 3.6R - Raptor MAF
Real name: Tim

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby smythie » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:11 pm

The STI spec Brembo caliper does not use any larger pads unfortunately. The pads Subaru put in the Brembo's on the Liberties were not all that crash hot from the complaints I've read in here - hardly any better than the stock pads in the 2 pot calipers that you have. I have no idea how pads directly from Brembo would perform though.

The stock pads on ours are easily capable of overpowering the tyres at non-go-to-jail road speeds - thus getting yourself better braking power is going to be useless unless you get stickier tyres to make use of it. The only areas where you would be looking to improve the brakes are:
  • super high speed fade resistance (and in your area how often are you going to use that?)
  • Repeated and extended high temperature fade resistance (see previous point)
  • slight improvement in bite

Otherwise, the stockers provide pretty good bite, aren't particularly dusty, are quiet (IMO) and stop well in most temps. They aren't subjected to the poor conditions a dirt bike's brakes are as the wheels will shift most shit away from getting near the discs as long as you are moving.

Fwiw, I have some aftermarket pads in the front of mine (stock in the back) and found initial cold bite a bit less than the stockers. The only areas they have improved on the stock pads has been fade resistance and longevity (80 odd thousand km's on these pads so far and there's still meat left and only tenths of a millimetre wear on the DBA4000's that were fitted at the same time). They may also be a bit less dusty.

Still, I'd be interested to hear what they are like if anyone tries them as sooner or later my front pads are going to need to be replaced
Flag Bitch

MY06 3.0RB
User avatar
smythie
 
Posts: 5227
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:46 pm
Location: Sydney (w-end)
Car: MY06 3RB - Blue

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Farugah » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:14 pm

I was thinking of going with Dixcel Type M Pads and some rotors to suit.

smythie wrote:The stock pads on ours are easily capable of overpowering the tyres at non-go-to-jail road speeds - thus getting yourself better braking power is going to be useless unless you get stickier tyres to make use of it. The only areas where you would be looking to improve the brakes are:
[list][*]super high speed fade resistance (and in your area how often are you going to use that?)
[*]Repeated and extended high temperature fade resistance (see previous point)


There is a road that I travel quite often in the snowy mountains (Brown Mountain) Which depending on conditions can be quite a strain on the brakes (I hit brake fade less than halfway down in my old commodore not pushing much), Im also running Pirelli Pzeros im not sure how they compare to the OEM potenzas but I've never driven on anything more sticky dry or wet.
User avatar
Farugah
 
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:10 pm
Location: Parramatta
Car: MY05 3.0RB Sedan Black
Real name: Kyall

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby SH30RB » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:41 pm

for the pads, just look for GT pads, we have the same size brakes.

i know ill be upgrading to DBA street series rotors, but still unsure of the pads.
TEAM FUNERAL HEARSE!
Only slightly modified, I swear!
User avatar
SH30RB
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4024
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:32 pm
Location: Sydney
Car: 05 Liberty 3.0R-B wagon
Real name: Simon
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14766

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby Tradewind » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:00 pm

Worth a try if you are looking for another alternative.

I obsess over the Brembo brand for dirt bike braking, goes from ordinary to brillant just by a pad change. And in the first instance the brakes were good, but somehow Brembo is FAR superiour
2015 Liberty 3.6R (6GEN) - Raptor headers and Raptor SUPER MAF
Tradewind
 
Posts: 2040
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:00 pm
Location: Gordonvale Qld
Car: Grey MY15 6GEN 3.6R - Raptor MAF
Real name: Tim

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby SH30RB » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:14 pm

and also a cheap but very worthy upgrade will be a set of steel braided brake lines
TEAM FUNERAL HEARSE!
Only slightly modified, I swear!
User avatar
SH30RB
-stickered-
 
Posts: 4024
Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:32 pm
Location: Sydney
Car: 05 Liberty 3.0R-B wagon
Real name: Simon
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14766

Re: 150k Service - Brake Pads

Postby 3rspecb » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:46 pm

smythie wrote:The STI spec Brembo caliper does not use any larger pads unfortunately.


:roll:

Frt brake pad to suit STi spec brembo caliper on the left vs Frt brake pad to suit GT,GTB,3rspecb OE caliper on the right
Image
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
MY06 3rspecb manual sedan, Urban Grey- Shockworks Coilovers '- Gone

MY17 SSv Redline, manual sedan, White.
3rspecb
 
Posts: 1342
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:59 pm
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY17 SSv Redline
Real name: G

Next

Return to 3.0R & 3.6R engine specific

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest