Fatal Liberty crash Olympic Drive 24/07

[stuntgirl]

Sad.

Makes me wonder that even with AWD, crumple zones and numerous airbags it still wan't enough to save him.

true.... i would like to see better pics of the car... just for my safety curiosity...

i believe it was a company car. and he worked for autonexus

[BlackGT]

Sad.

Makes me wonder that even with AWD, crumple zones and numerous airbags it still wan't enough to save him.

true.... i would like to see better pics of the car... just for my safety curiosity...

Same..

[SkoobyGT]

The air bags and other safety features are there to help protect you.

I have been to countless crashes, with the worst being where people die.

To do that sort of damage, he has had a massive hit. I mean look at the size of the tree he hit. If he didn't die he still would have had massive head injuries that left him quadraplegic for the rest of his life.

With the vehicle colliding with the door / A Pillar / Drivers roof there was little chance.

[buggermedumplings]

Although tragic, it's pretty simple, no amount of VDC systems or airbags save your from stupidity, period.

[WeeGraeme]

The air bags and other safety features are there to help protect you.

I have been to countless crashes, with the worst being where people die.

To do that sort of damage, he has had a massive hit. I mean look at the size of the tree he hit. If he didn't die he still would have had massive head injuries that left him quadraplegic for the rest of his life.

With the vehicle colliding with the door / A Pillar / Drivers roof there was little chance.

I was going to make a similar comment.

I first noticed Liberty because of the style of the car. I grew to like it more as I read forums like this one and started to notice them more on the street. When I read that they have a 5 star safety rating, I was well and truly sold. Having said that, they're still only metal cages on wheels into which we place ourselves. I think that the trap with cars like the Liberty is that they handle so well that you can do things in them that you wouldn't get away with in other cars. That probably makes us all a bit more complacent and we forget that because they allow us to stretch the limits, when they let go, they'll let go in a big way, just as this guy found out.

Having said all that, I was just thinking about crashes I've been to. I've been a paramedic for nearly 20 years. I can remember being to only two accidents involving Subarus. Both involved minor injuries only and both were Imprezas where the driver had been driving like a fool.

[thepunchman]

hey its physics, throw a tin can, albeit a well built tincan, at an imovable object hard enough and that is your result

[viriix]

I agree with everything said already.

No matter what you drive... if you're being a f(*&@!# dickhead and being stupid.. this is the repercussion.

Sad but true.

[Cagie]

I agree with everything said already.

No matter what you drive... if you're being a f(*&@!# dickhead and being stupid.. this is the repercussion.

Sad but true.

As viriix has already said and without saying to much here, but for christ sake people, slow down, do the legal speed limit, if some wanker wants to drag you let the idiot kill themselves not you. DON'T SPEED and DO NOT GO ABOVE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. PLEASE.

As stuntgirl has said - yes the vehicle is/was belonging to Autonexus. I am aware of more of the story however with the toecutters watching, one has to be careful.

[jdm rsk]

i can see a insurance increase

[viriix]

That's what I was thinking too.. and mine's already gone up for no reason this year.. sigh -_-

[3rspecb]

Although tragic, it's pretty simple, no amount of VDC systems or airbags save your from stupidity, period.

Spot on...

[SkoobyGT]

Mine went down to $900 this year, I'm excited.

There is no way one Liberty crash will affect our premiums.

[Cagie]

Mine went down to $900 this year, I'm excited.

There is no way one Liberty crash will affect our premiums.

Have to agree with SkoobyGT here. There is a great deal of reasons why your insurance would go up.

Anyway - such is life

[MIB]

Speed is not the problem, inappropriate use of it is.

Sorry Cagie, but I'm sure you don't die when you 'on' the flashers and chase someone, at speeds over the posted limit.

Drag racing in built up areas is stupid, but then we've all had the red mist and done stupid things.

[BlackGT]

Speed is not the problem, inappropriate use of it is.

Sorry Cagie, but I'm sure you don't die when you 'on' the flashers and chase someone, at speeds over the posted limit.

Drag racing in built up areas is stupid, but then we've all had the red mist and done stupid things.

I totally agree, who hasn't on this forum driven say for arguments sake 10 over the limit especially when traffic is going 15 km/h over the posted limit. Speed is not the problem if it was then police, ambulance and fire vehicles wouldn't do it. Doing stupid stunts like that hoon at St Mary's the other night that is a total different kettle of fish. I don't think I will ever agree with RTA blanket statement of speed is the be all and end all of motoring safety. For the record I will say here that I sometimes do 65 in a 60 zone, call me crazy but I don't think that is unsafe.