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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby swingn » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:54 am

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I think the Blitz looks better & having seen them installed in many Libs, they actually match the interior rather nicely.

I think the NTD one looks pretty ordinary... :P I think it's actually got a lot to do with the shape.

Either way, much of a muchness. What every gets your rocks off... :lol:
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby tangcla » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:06 am

swingn wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree.

I think the Blitz looks better & having seen them installed in many Libs, they actually match the interior rather nicely.

If it didn't have a Blitz badge and it didn't come with a JDM sticker... would it still look better? :tongue:
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby Arith » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:30 am

Not a big fan of the NTD myself either. Looks bulky and square. Sure, it's got a shiny finish, but the Blitz is sleek and would be more inconspicuous. Meh, everyone's got a preference on how their interior should be. :D

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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby tangcla » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:48 am

Arith wrote:Meh, everyone's got a preference on how their interior should be. :D

Stock? :wink:
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby Arith » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:19 am

tangcla wrote:Stock? :wink:

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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby teK-- » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:30 am

swingn wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree.

I think the Blitz looks better & having seen them installed in many Libs, they actually match the interior rather nicely.

I think the NTD one looks pretty ordinary... :P I think it's actually got a lot to do with the shape.

Either way, much of a muchness. What every gets your rocks off... :lol:


Lol dunno what you're talkin bout Matty, but NEITHER of those units get my rocks off, haha.
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby TETT » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:38 am

teK-- wrote:
swingn wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree.

I think the Blitz looks better & having seen them installed in many Libs, they actually match the interior rather nicely.

I think the NTD one looks pretty ordinary... :P I think it's actually got a lot to do with the shape.

Either way, much of a muchness. What every gets your rocks off... :lol:


Lol dunno what you're talkin bout Matty, but NEITHER of those units get my rocks off, haha.



but the Blitz only have 3 mode in 4 steps(SP 1-3) ,the Pivot (NTD)one have 3 modes in 12 steps(SP 1-7)
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby teK-- » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:43 pm

Just received the controller today and have done a test fitting to ensure that it works. The control pad is actually pretty small about the size of a box of matches (see pic).

Generally the hardware looks well put together, the only thing I might question is some of the wiring harness connectors look look they need some strain relief fitted (the wiring pins could easily pull out of the molex-style connectors if the harness got caught on something). I will need to conjure up something with zip ties/tape/heatshrink before I properly install it into the car.

Very easy install. Unplug the accelerator pedal harness, plug one end of the ETC harness into the accelerator pedal and the other one into the factory harness (it's basically a piggyback). Other ETC harness plugs into factory OBD Port. It only uses 2 wires of the port, ground and constant 12V. When I install it properly I'm going to cut this connector off and hard wire the module into constant power so it frees up the OBD port.

Both ETC harnesses connect into the "main" module. Then the control module with LED display plugs into the "main" module. All are small enough to tuck under the dash trim.

On road:

I really need to hook up the reverse gear override. It is otherwise uncontrollable whilst reversing the car if using some of the higher "Sport" settings. The override consists of a single wire which needs to be 12V+ when reverse gear is engaged.

On Sport 7 (highest), 1st gear revs out very quickly with minimal throttle input. 2nd and 3rd gears also, I am quickly going over the speed limit without realising it. (Gotta retrain the right foot). Even in SP3 the throttle response is very good perhaps a bit more than I want.

After a few laps of the block I have settled on perhaps SP2 to be ideal for everyday driving, and up to SP5 or so for spirited driving where you have a clear run of road ahead. SP7 is pretty mad (literally) I wouldn't use this except on the track.

SP2 is very very nice and takes away the initial doughy throttle when accelerating from a standstill, in all forward gears except for 5th when the 2.5i starts to struggle anyway.

But yes, really need to hook up the reverse gear bypass if I am to use this module full time :)

The LED display shows not only the current mode, but when you are moving it displays a numerical indication of % throttle opening which can be useful in some situations. It is very bright at night though so you might want to mount it out of direct sight; I'm thinking either under the dimmer knob, or on the RHS of the centre console where it is blocked by the wiper stalk.

All in all, a good buy. Looking forward to getting it properly wired up and installed, then playing around with the settings more.

Note: 2 harnesses available for Libertys/Legacies. 2A and 1B, I believe the earlier MY04 and perhaps even MY05 need the 1B harness, whereas newer ones need the 2A. Easy way to tell is to look at your accelerator pedal harness. If it's about 2" long then it's the 1B. If it's about 1" long then it's the 2A. Unfortunately the advertising literature isn't too clear and the seller was good enough to send me both harnesses just in case
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby TETT » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:01 pm

love it jim ..... my one is coming soon :D
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby twpanson » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:40 pm

Hi, Guys

Just got here. This is Panson representing TWP to promote the ETC electronic throttle controller.
Yes, you will find a lot of identical units on market pricing from US$120-US150.
However, I would be proud to say that my company is one of the manufacturers who used to manufacture these units for Pivot and Blitz.
We use only quality components to make our products. All the IC circuit board and conductor we use on ETC throttle controller are from well known companies including, Fujitsu(http://jp.fujitsu.com/) and TSMC(http://www.tsmc.com). That's why we are able to honor up to 1 year product warranty for free replacement.

If people here in AU are interested in our product, we can manage to launch a group buy for you guys.

I appreciate any comments and opinions
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby Hotwire » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:37 pm

Been thinking about this - one set throttle for me, one set throttle for the wife (read-eco mode :lol: )
will keep it in mind till after christmas when MAY have more $$ free...
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby teK-- » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:59 pm

I'll put up some pics when I install this properly on the weekend.

Panson is the man I was dealing with and I found him to be really helpful and thorough. He sent me two different harnesses at no extra cost when it was not certain which one would fit. Now that's what I call service!

For reference the (pre facelift) gen4s need the 1B harness. The post facelift models need the 2A.
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby Lib 3.0LR » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:01 pm

Hey Panson, do i get a better discount considering I introduced you to the site. I'm the one who's been corresponding with you on ebay.

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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby teK-- » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:50 pm

Lol George you are such a hustler. What about me, I started this thread and referred everyone to Panson ;).
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Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

Postby Lib 3.0LR » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:09 pm

Sorry Jimmy lets both take the glory :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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