My H6 transformed

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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby jay.ritchie » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:25 am

SubMeister wrote:I had a street tune from Matt (KiDo) a week ago and am very impressed with the results.


I need more info! How much is the street tune? And do you need to anything else to the car to benefit from the tune?
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby jay.ritchie » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:26 am

jay.ritchie wrote:
SubMeister wrote:I had a street tune from Matt (KiDo) a week ago and am very impressed with the results.


I need more info! How much is the street tune? And do you need to anything else to the car to benefit from the tune?


Oops just clicked next page. my bad. dont worry everyone- im sorted
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby jay.ritchie » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:31 pm

Getting a tune done on thursday night. Reading all these posts are making me so excited.
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby bass_straitener » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:08 pm

I wonder how the OP's tune is going?

Fact is I'm seeing a few H6 owners, telling me their tunes are pinging when driving in the Melbourne heat of the past few months.

Some are returning to stock as they can't drive their cars without the tell tale noise. :(

How's everyone else's H6 tune going?
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby Nick3.0R-B » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:51 pm

My was pinging and a touch jolty.

But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.

Most noticeable would be:
taking off without any bog down. Very quick and smooth.
3rd gear pulls like 2nd gear.
6th gear pulls from 1500rpm.
Great fuel economy.
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby <GB> » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:52 pm

Nick3.0R-B wrote:My was pinging and a touch jolty.

But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.

Most noticeable would be:
taking off without any bog down. Very quick and smooth.
3rd gear pulls like 2nd gear.
6th gear pulls from 1500rpm.
Great fuel economy.

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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby libz05 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:05 am

Nick3.0R-B wrote:My was pinging and a touch jolty.

But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.

Most noticeable would be:
taking off without any bog down. Very quick and smooth.
3rd gear pulls like 2nd gear.
6th gear pulls from 1500rpm.
Great fuel economy.



210kw from 180kw ?? what else have you done to your car ??
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby libz05 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:06 am

can some1 please explain what pinging is ??
cant get my head around it lol
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby sheppo9 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:16 am

libz05 wrote:can some1 please explain what pinging is ??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinging
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby bass_straitener » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:59 am

Nick3.0R-B wrote:My was pinging and a touch jolty.

But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.
Great fuel economy.


Pinging appears to be a feature of the Kido H6 tune. :lol:

The great fuel economy is most likely what's contributing to you pinging. The maps I've seen are way too lean.

Also explains the O2 sensor failures I'm seeing for the H6. EGTs too hot.

And unless you have a supercharger, headers and a few other supporting mods those power figures are highly unlikely. Matt's bum dyno appears to be a very happy one. :lol: :lol:
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:47 am

bass_straitener wrote:
Nick3.0R-B wrote:My was pinging and a touch jolty.
But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.
Great fuel economy.

Pinging appears to be a feature of the Kido H6 tune. :lol:
The great fuel economy is most likely what's contributing to you pinging. The maps I've seen are way too lean.
Also explains the O2 sensor failures I'm seeing for the H6. EGTs too hot.
And unless you have a supercharger, headers and a few other supporting mods those power figures are highly unlikely. Matt's bum dyno appears to be a very happy one. :lol: :lol:


They have more fuel than stock Bruce ;) Take another look, 14.7:1 from below 3200rpm in stock form which is when the O2 sensors are active yet get horrible fuel economy... :lol: Surely you understand that? ;)
So why do they have torque pulling from 1500rpm in 5th/6th gear when tuned if it is running lean and not pinging? 2500rpm and 4400rpm have been the two 'points' (cam map switch point and peak torque) which has been Intake Air Temp related(not enough timing pulled for intake temps) since winter was not an issue when more oxygen is in the air which makes them run leaner/colder. Tweak of the IAT to account for the heat and sorted.

Also, the O2 sensors are failing in stock form. It is a common issue... I thought you researched stuff? O2 sensors last 80,000km's, most H6's I have tuned have 120,000+ which is the case with Hoff's car.
Too lean? From your vast experience tuning NA engines? Might want to look at a 2.5i tune from a Forester or Liberty then... 14.7:1 across the WHOLE fuel map. VQ35 350Z or SR20DE Silvia has 14.7:1 until over 6000rpm.

As for the power figures... 160+Kw@wheels from manuals in tuned form and 150+ in auto. Stock MY08+ STi puts out 155/160Kw and has 220Kw@flywheel.

Brand new Hyundai i45 that I was in while in Adelaide was pinging in the heat... ;)
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby libz05 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:52 am

PM sent matt!
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby XT_for_me » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:25 pm

libz05 wrote:can some1 please explain what pinging is ??
cant get my head around it lol

This is an excellent article about "pinging"

http://www.contactmagazine.com/Issue54/ ... asics.html
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby jakey » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:41 pm

XT_for_me wrote:
libz05 wrote:can some1 please explain what pinging is ??
cant get my head around it lol

This is an excellent article about "pinging"

http://www.contactmagazine.com/Issue54/ ... asics.html



TL;DR : Pinging:
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Re: My H6 transformed

Postby bass_straitener » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:44 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:
bass_straitener wrote:
Nick3.0R-B wrote:My was pinging and a touch jolty.
But that was the base tune. Matt sorted it all out and its so much better. 180kw to 210kw is a very welcomed improvement.
Great fuel economy.

Pinging appears to be a feature of the Kido H6 tune. :lol:
The great fuel economy is most likely what's contributing to you pinging. The maps I've seen are way too lean.
Also explains the O2 sensor failures I'm seeing for the H6. EGTs too hot.
And unless you have a supercharger, headers and a few other supporting mods those power figures are highly unlikely. Matt's bum dyno appears to be a very happy one. :lol: :lol:


They have more fuel than stock Bruce ;) Take another look, 14.7:1 from below 3200rpm in stock form which is when the O2 sensors are active yet get horrible fuel economy... :lol: Surely you understand that? ;)
So why do they have torque pulling from 1500rpm in 5th/6th gear when tuned if it is running lean and not pinging? 2500rpm and 4400rpm have been the two 'points' (cam map switch point and peak torque) which has been Intake Air Temp related(not enough timing pulled for intake temps) since winter was not an issue when more oxygen is in the air which makes them run leaner/colder. Tweak of the IAT to account for the heat and sorted.

Also, the O2 sensors are failing in stock form. It is a common issue... I thought you researched stuff? O2 sensors last 80,000km's, most H6's I have tuned have 120,000+ which is the case with Hoff's car.
Too lean? From your vast experience tuning NA engines? Might want to look at a 2.5i tune from a Forester or Liberty then... 14.7:1 across the WHOLE fuel map. VQ35 350Z or SR20DE Silvia has 14.7:1 until over 6000rpm.

As for the power figures... 160+Kw@wheels from manuals in tuned form and 150+ in auto. Stock MY08+ STi puts out 155/160Kw and has 220Kw@flywheel.

Brand new Hyundai i45 that I was in while in Adelaide was pinging in the heat... ;)


Wow lot's of numbers as usual to confuse the masses. Hopefully it's worked.. :lol:

A car with 27,000kms with a complete service history showing no variance in O2 sensor voltage pings from 2800-3200RPM and again from 5000-6000RPM. You tell him his O2 sensor are on the way out.

Your H6 tunes show you have a 45% pedal angle requesting 100% throttle opening. Off course its going to feel quick. :lol:

The Subaru O2 sensors have a service life of 160,000kms. Information from Subaru itself.

If you think it's your IAT settings then fix them all immediately. I've already had PMs from your customers advising of pinging.

And really who gives two squirts about a Hyundai or a Nissan. Go talk that crap on their forums and get shot down there.
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