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Postby DeMobBoss » Thu May 07, 2009 10:46 am

vaccine wrote:lol.. a project similiar to mine.
i am going a big single east/west over gearbox.
run will be a gt3040 on stock motor, then maybe a gt35R or gt40R.
friend just made 200@4000rpm, and 300@6000rpm.
running 13psi through a gt40R on built H6 motor in a Gen2 lib. :twisted:
hes about to screw 20psi in.. thinking around the 400kw mark. :shock:


Yepp that sbout makes sense 20psi should get you somewhere up there :twisted: Good luck with that - should be nuts!!! :D
We are expecting similar figures with high pressure and low comp conversion.:twisted: Our main difficulty will be trying to maintain the luxurious refined feel of the Liberty while pumping such high KWs and Nms. :lol: But, it sounds like thats not really a concern of yours. :lol: or is it? - will you be using any sound deadening of any sort? Cuz I think I may have to consider it down the line. I'll be interested in your final dyno charts.
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Postby BlackFlatSix05 » Thu May 07, 2009 3:13 pm

vaccine wrote:lol.. a project similiar to mine.
i am going a big single east/west over gearbox.
run will be a gt3040 on stock motor, then maybe a gt35R or gt40R.
friend just made 200@4000rpm, and 300@6000rpm.
running 13psi through a gt40R on built H6 motor in a Gen2 lib. :twisted:
hes about to screw 20psi in.. thinking around the 400kw mark. :shock:


I heard about your mates car. Apparently he turned up at a dyno day in Queanbeyan. Forged internals I hear. Can you get us some pics and maybe a copy of his dyno sheet ? :)

Hey Doc. Any photo's of the fabrication work on the headers etc. I'm sure we are all interested in how everything fits together.
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Postby DeMobBoss » Thu May 07, 2009 6:45 pm

BlackFlatSix05 wrote:
vaccine wrote:lol.. a project similiar to mine.
i am going a big single east/west over gearbox.
run will be a gt3040 on stock motor, then maybe a gt35R or gt40R.
friend just made 200@4000rpm, and 300@6000rpm.
running 13psi through a gt40R on built H6 motor in a Gen2 lib. :twisted:
hes about to screw 20psi in.. thinking around the 400kw mark. :shock:


I heard about your mates car. Apparently he turned up at a dyno day in Queanbeyan. Forged internals I hear. Can you get us some pics and maybe a copy of his dyno sheet ? :)

Hey Doc. Any photo's of the fabrication work on the headers etc. I'm sure we
are all interested in how everything fits together.



Yeah dyno charts would be good.
Got some photos but none of the headers - space is tight so no access from above. I'll get it up on a hoist at some point and get some images but for now here's a few from top yet unfinished though:


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Postby hin249 » Fri May 08, 2009 4:02 am

those pics r showing us what is the meaning of "A wolf with the sheep skin" 8)
Its sick man~~ :roll:
looking forward on yr upcoming stage 2 & 3 ~~ dont forget to put on youtube!! Cheers mate
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Postby DeMobBoss » Fri May 08, 2009 9:11 am

hin249 wrote:those pics r showing us what is the meaning of "A wolf with the sheep skin" 8)
Its sick man~~ :roll:
looking forward on yr upcoming stage 2 & 3 ~~ dont forget to put on youtube!! Cheers mate


Yepp thats sorta the idea - its a bit of a sleeper.:wink: Glad you like it!
Don't hold your breath for stage 2 and 3 I have to first get tired of the spectacular results expected from stage 1. :lol: :twisted:
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Postby BlackFlatSix05 » Fri May 08, 2009 11:47 am

Doc,

How much boost are you going to run given the stock internals ? Also did the engine have to come out for the installation ? What turbo's are they and are they internal or external wastegates ?

I gather you are going to run eboost or similar to control boost given you are retaining the N/A OEM ecu piggybacked.

Are you running OEM injectors if so what size are they in the 3.0.

Sorry for the 20 questions but I'm very interested in this build.
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Postby at last! » Fri May 08, 2009 12:21 pm

Wow...that must be a mongrel to work on.

I still want one...hmmm...I wonder what all that powaaar would do to my auto transmission...

I imagine not good things :cry: ...just trying to avoid the reality that I'll need to sell it and buy a manual if I ever want to do this.

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Ask Paul for the finer details.

Postby DeMobBoss » Fri May 08, 2009 12:26 pm

BlackFlatSix05 wrote:Doc,

How much boost are you going to run given the stock internals ? Also did the engine have to come out for the installation ? What turbo's are they and are they internal or external wastegates ?

I gather you are going to run eboost or similar to control boost given you are retaining the N/A OEM ecu piggybacked.

Are you running OEM injectors if so what size are they in the 3.0.

Sorry for the 20 questions but I'm very interested in this build.


For stage one with stock internals I don't think we'll be running the boost too far beyond 8psi. Engine did not need to come out for LPTcharging. I think they are WRX turbos but thats about as much as I can tell you at this time, there are more details further up this post and there will be more once everything is completed which I will dutifully list when it becomes available to me. However, If you are this interested in the build and thinking about doing it yourself, then you're probably better off getting your info from Paul himself at Pulseracing.
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Re: Ask Paul for the finer details.

Postby Jimmy S » Fri May 08, 2009 2:39 pm

DeMobBoss wrote:
BlackFlatSix05 wrote:Doc,

How much boost are you going to run given the stock internals ? Also did the engine have to come out for the installation ? What turbo's are they and are they internal or external wastegates ?

I gather you are going to run eboost or similar to control boost given you are retaining the N/A OEM ecu piggybacked.

Are you running OEM injectors if so what size are they in the 3.0.

Sorry for the 20 questions but I'm very interested in this build.


For stage one with stock internals I don't think we'll be running the boost too far beyond 8psi. Engine did not need to come out for LPTcharging. I think they are WRX turbos but thats about as much as I can tell you at this time, there are more details further up this post and there will be more once everything is completed which I will dutifully list when it becomes available to me. However, If you are this interested in the build and thinking about doing it yourself, then you're probably better off getting your info from Paul himself at Pulseracing.


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Its a tight squeeze

Postby DeMobBoss » Fri May 08, 2009 3:31 pm

TD04's?? :)


Yeah I think thats right thats all that would fit!!
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Re: Its a tight squeeze

Postby BlackFlatSix05 » Fri May 08, 2009 9:34 pm

DeMobBoss wrote:
TD04's?? :)


Yeah I think thats right thats all that would fit!!


Bugger! I sold my old Td04 for $200 when I upgraded to the VF34 on my old WRX.

To think I would have been half way there :lol:
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Re: Its a tight squeeze

Postby DeMobBoss » Sat May 09, 2009 12:47 am

BlackFlatSix05 wrote:
DeMobBoss wrote:
TD04's?? :)


Yeah I think thats right thats all that would fit!!


Bugger! I sold my old Td04 for $200 when I upgraded to the VF34 on my old WRX.

To think I would have been half way there :lol:


:lol: Half way, Faaaarrrrk if only that was half way - its way more work than originally anticipated... :lol:
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Re: Its a tight squeeze

Postby Sentinel » Sat May 09, 2009 12:51 am

DeMobBoss wrote:
BlackFlatSix05 wrote:
DeMobBoss wrote:
TD04's?? :)


Yeah I think thats right thats all that would fit!!


Bugger! I sold my old Td04 for $200 when I upgraded to the VF34 on my old WRX.

To think I would have been half way there :lol:


:lol: Half way, Faaaarrrrk if only that was half way - its way more work than originally anticipated... :lol:


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Postby suff » Sat May 09, 2009 3:56 am

Mod's are always cheap.. its the supporting components required to get the a fore mentioned mod to work properly that are expensive!

Nice car BTW.. good to see someone has finally bitten the bullet and done a proper TTH6
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Some more photos

Postby DeMobBoss » Sat May 16, 2009 8:57 pm

here are some more photos chaps!:

Still dirty after a baseline fang around the track a few weeks before delivery to Pulse
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The new race track wheels sporting semi slicks giving that wider foot print for the racing line. Hold on a minute is she blowing flames? What are those carbon flares on the exhaust? :wink: :lol: Image

The aesthetically more pleasing street wheels (OEM)
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This photo shows: Track wheels, slotted brake discs, ceramic pads and red/pink STI coils springs.
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Bay photo showing both turbos minus right hand air box housing yet to be attached.
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Short block ready for sealing and low comp pistons for stage 2.
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The sleeping dragon.
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New video on you tube as well incomplete tune test run with a minimal 4psi boost gave 225Kw ATW and 6000Nm flat lining from just below 2000rpm all the way to red, as theorised there's no lag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0cAvnXO86g&feature=channel

Thats all for now.
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