Rotors

[Mano™]

Myself an Shane don't have that problem

[Arith]

Myself an Shane don't have that problem

With what? You need to add quotes on what you're replying to!

[coyote]

the reason i liked the 5k over the 4k's is the 2 piece aspect. is this not really an advantage for the 2-3 track days i hope to do a year? i also hope to get braided lines, better fluid and in the long run, better calipers. on that, what fluid would you suggest?

On the contrary, given the brakes are going away and fading on you, for those 2 or 3 tracks days the DBA5000s paired with good pads, fluid and lines will make a massive difference.

I didn't have to pay for the DBA5000s I used, but I would have coughed up heaps given they not only drastically reduced pads temps (hence fade), but also not having that solid steel hat around the hubs meant I didn't have a wheel bearing failure every few months.

Then again, good pads, fluid and lines alone will make a massive difference and you'll only notice the improved heat dissipation of the 5000s a few laps into a really hard track session (if at all). If you can tell the difference on the road, let me know where you're driving because I don't want to be anywhere near you!

I'd suggest you change the pads and fluid and see if you still think you need to spend more dollars.

As for the fluid, if you don't change it regularly then maybe think about stumping up for some Castrol SRF. Incredibly overpriced, but good even when wet. I just use whatever DOT4 with a high temp rating my mechanic has and change it at least every six months.

I second the suggestion to speak with Tony at V-Sport. Nice guy, knows his stuff and can give you an idea of prices v performance.

[Mano™]

Rims getting dirty from brake dusty

[coyote]

Rims getting dirty from brake dusty

That's easily fixed with some of this:

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[Mano™]

Well we don't have that issue BLACK MOTHER FUKKAZ hehehehee

[tangcla]

hmm Jim - still waiting on my Hawk pads to get uber-dusty. They aren't as dust-free as people make them out to be, though...

[animal]

Unless you go an Sti set up eg brembo's & slotted discs then next best option would be good pads eg Pagid not cheap but big difference in braking power the other factor for braking will be your tyres and susp but def the tyres. The pgids can be used on the track as well but the track would be wasted unless you have semi slicks.

[coyote]

Unless you go an Sti set up eg brembo's & slotted discs then next best option would be good pads eg Pagid not cheap but big difference in braking power the other factor for braking will be your tyres and susp but def the tyres. The pgids can be used on the track as well but the track would be wasted unless you have semi slicks.

Good point about tyres and suspension. I have RE001s at the moment and they are by far the weakest link in my braking package.

STi Brembos are basically rice. Sorry, but it's true. My inexpensive setup using the 2 piston floating calipers would outperform the standard STi setup in every way except caliper flex - which I challenge anyone to even notice.

Once again, there are much better ways to spend your money (pads, fluid, tyres, suspension).

[animal]

Theres no way the standard brakes are better than Sti brakes. When I upgraded my brakes the difference was huge. Sorry but I'm sure that anyone who has upgraded to brembos would agree. A good person to speak to is Tony at V-sport who specializes in brakes and can advise on a solution

[Resonate]

Getting off topic but, are you comparing absolute stock standard brakes to the brembo setup though? I was under the impression on what coyote is trying to say is that one can match the performance of stock brembo's by upgrading rotors/pads/lines etc and still have plenty of money left over for other mods rather than forking out around 7 grand on a new brembo set (for those without the Tuned by STi cars).

[animal]

coyote states out perform, I upgraded my standard brakes aswell before I went Brembo and still found a noticable difference. In Adams case I gave him my opinion on cheaper alternative in my earlier post. I'd suggest the Brembo's only after you want more braking power once you've maxed the standard brakes. Like I stated speak to a pro

[adam]

sorry but I thought i'd posted a reply to this yesterday but i think my modem at work is playing up. this is basically what i wrote.


so i called Tony at v-sport like just about everybody suggested and he told me to stop being an axe murderer with my brakes and to just slow down 'cause no-one likes hoons....

but seriously his advice re the brembo/dba rotors was that brembo is much better quality and that if i wanted a full kit in brembos it was actually not a bad price in comparison to other kits. i think that i've decided to get pads and fluid and (in time) some goodrich braided lines and see how that floats my boat for now.

so as far as pads go i'd need some that are suitable for everyday wifey but also bite when pushed hard and are warm but don't put me into one of jimmy's dust storms. does such a pad exist?

[Arith]

but seriously his advice re the brembo/dba rotors was that brembo is much better quality and that if i wanted a full kit in brembos it was actually not a bad price in comparison to other kits.

After seeing the condition of Matt's (swingn) DBA rotors after they were taken off the car (to be replaced by the Brembo's), I'd have to agree. Man, with just street driving those things were all chewed up and eaten. Scary! I reckon the low range DBA's are good for everyday use, but for hoons like Matt and Adam, Brembo's would be the step up.

I think that i've decided to get pads and fluid and (in time) some goodrich braided lines and see how that floats my boat for now.

That's a good start Adam. You'll want to wear out the pads before considering upgrading the rotors because you'll need new pads anyway.

So as far as pads go i'd need some that are suitable for everyday wifey but also bite when pushed hard and are warm but don't put me into one of jimmy's dust storms. does such a pad exist?

I'm sure my case was unique. Tony (the one at V-Sport not the many billions we have here on the forum) highly recommends them and has had nothing but satisfied customers with them.

I think they would match well with a stock rotor. Silent, better than stock grip, and relatively low dust. For me, I had them paired with the Dixcel slotted rotors, which I don't think has been done before. The Dixcel's might have chewed on the pads a bit and caused more dust than usual. You should consider them for your application though, Adam. They are decent value for what they offer.

[adam]

so how much are the pads jim and who do i get them through?
phat is still not answering my calls because he got sick of the tears everytime he told me that he couldn't work on my d/p just yet.
after hearing senators post about his evc i think i'll get one of those as well.