Short shifter anyone?

by Q » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:22 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUBARU-LIBERTY-G ... dZViewItem

by **Mo_GT** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:35 pm

That aint a short shifter...

by Q » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:53 pm

Mo_GT wrote:That aint a short shifter...

Did you even read the ad??

by **qship** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:14 am

I concur with Mo_GT

Its a stock shifter.

by **gtspec** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:08 am

lol people it is a stock shifter Q has admitted that..
but his point was someone could use this to mod it into a custom made shortshifter..
read the ad peoples :lol:

by **Arith** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:34 am

If I learned anything from customer service, it's that people simply do not want to read.

Here is the description from the auction, with highlights on the conversion the seller is referring to.

EVER THOUGHT OF BUYING A SHORT SHIFTER FROM SUBARU AND NOTICED THE PRICE? WELL HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET A STANDARD ONE THAT YOU CAN TURN INTO A SHORT SHIFTER FOR PEANUTS. JUST SHORTEN THE VERTICAL SHAFT, PUT A NEW THREAD ON THE END AND THERE YOU HAVE IT, ONE SHORT SHIFTER USING GENUINE SUBARU PARTS!

CHECK OUT LEGACYGT.COM FOR MORE INFO AS HEAPS OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE THIS MOD ALREADY, BANG FOR BUCK THE BIGGEST CHANGE TO UR GEARBOX.

by **Mo_GT** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:36 pm

Q wrote:
Mo_GT wrote:That aint a short shifter...

Did you even read the ad??

Yes i read the ad, but do you know what a short shifter is?

I'll explain:

JUST SHORTEN THE VERTICAL SHAFT, PUT A NEW THREAD ON THE END AND THERE YOU HAVE IT, ONE SHORT SHIFTER USING GENUINE SUBARU PARTS!

That doesn't make a std shifter a short shifter. To make that into a short shifter, you have to change the linkage point higher and also the angle of the conector to the fork has to be adjusted so that it doesn't hit anything.

Here's a pic i found:

by **Arith** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:19 pm

Heh-heh. Thanks for the clarification Mo. I'm sure the average user won't know that and will end up getting it thinking they can easily modify it to be a short shifter.

by **suff** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:24 pm

Technically a short shifter is anything which reduces the throw distance to change gear, shortening the shaft will naturally reduce the distance travelled to change gear..

How ever.. as Mo so correctly states this is not a "proper" short shifter.. just a dodgy DIY.. bit like a milo can really

by Q » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:06 pm

Bloody hell, talk about being difficult!!

Shortening the shaft will reduce the throw required to change gear, hence the name. Short Shifter.

Anyway, lots of people on LegacyGT.com have done the mod and I just thought someone might like to try it.

by **MIB** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:43 am

I think it means 'short' as in you'll have to reach lower to grab the knob. Mo was spot on for a true short shifter which actually reduces the throw of the gear lever, as in physically REDUCES the throw...
The actual throw in this mod stays the same, your shifter is just shorter giving the impression the throw is shorter...

by **kaycy** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:48 pm

What a debate about what is a short shifter and what is not. Thanks guys, now I think I understand what is a short shifter and what I would call a "stubby shifter"

Holden Astra SRI has a stubby gear lever which I believe they were trying to make a "short shifter" but there is still a lot of travel between the gears.

Guys would you refer to the STI 6 speed manual a short shifter?

by **Mo_GT** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:51 pm

I've driven cars that have had the gear stick shortened - one was a swift GTi. This "short shifter" actually made it hard to change gears quickly - my arm had to extend forward more on 1st, 3rd and 5th gears. And almost everytime i hit 3rd my knuckles would slam into the cd player!!!

I had a C's short shifter on my old WRX - now that was a proper short shifter.

kaycy wrote:Guys would you refer to the STI 6 speed manual a short shifter?

STi WRX? yes that's a proper short shifter. Don't know abt the Liberty t/b STi tho...

by **Mo_GT** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:55 pm

Pic of a 5sp short shifter for subaru i found online:

The differences are the distance between the bottom (where it sits in the car) and where the link connects up and the linck to the the gear box is bent at an angle to allow for the higher conection to the gear stick.

EVER THOUGHT OF BUYING A SHORT SHIFTER FROM SUBARU AND NOTICED THE PRICE?

There's a reason for that - it works properly and won't screw up your selector fork

by **MIB** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:42 pm

I had a Perrin short shifter in my Forester and it was great, but I don't find the Subaru boxes really like to be shifted too quickly, certainly not like my old celica with the supra box, you could bang that thing through the gears...

The 6 speed shifter in my Spec B is OK, it could be shorter but I haven't found a decent aftermarket SS one for it yet.

Short shifter anyone?

Short shifter anyone?

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