Member Profile - jay.ritchie - 3RB to Golf R

[jay.ritchie]

What sort of 0-100's is it doing now Jay?

Got no idea how to time it, and personally i think a 1/4 mile will be a far more accurate way of measuring how quick it is.
I might take it to the drags after the final revision!

[alexeiwoody]

What sort of 0-100's is it doing now Jay?

Got no idea how to time it, and personally i think a 1/4 mile will be a far more accurate way of measuring how quick it is.
I might take it to the drags after the final revision!

Would be interesting to see the actual numbers

[chubbs]

i can vouch for jays power, he took me for a drive in this thing before his latest revision and it pull like a train. My old man has a h6 and being passenger in jays the difference is massive.

[peadya100]

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

[jay.ritchie]

i can vouch for jays power, he took me for a drive in this thing before his latest revision and it pull like a train. My old man has a h6 and being passenger in jays the difference is massive.

Keyword: Before.

I think the difference in power between revision D and E was a lot more noticeable than the revisions from 98 to the E85 base tune.

Another LV and log tonight, should see revision G looking pretttttty good. H will be the last until i see matt in person!

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

Not if you visit Melbournes northern suburbs haha!

[kiahatsiu]

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

Nein. Real world measure is the trap speed at drags.

[owen]

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

0-100 can vary just as much unless you drive an auto.

How hard you dump the clutch, what rpm you dump the clutch, if you dump the clutch at all, how much wheel spin you get off the line, how quickly you can slam 2nd & 3rd (or if you have Matt's FFS, can it keep up human reflexes), will affect your 0-100 figure just the same as a 1/4 run.

[jakey]

Jay you might contend for the 99.99 trap speed challenge
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=21623

Edit: Just saw you already posted there

[alexeiwoody]

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

0-100 can vary just as much unless you drive an auto.

How hard you dump the clutch, what rpm you dump the clutch, if you dump the clutch at all, how much wheel spin you get off the line, how quickly you can slam 2nd & 3rd (or if you have Matt's FFS, can it keep up human reflexes), will affect your 0-100 figure just the same as a 1/4 run.

Just get Owen to drag Jay's and another car (gti?) to compare

[owen]

Quater mile times are a good comparison, but they can vary so much depending on the drive. I think 0-100 is a good "real world" measure as its pretty rare that you'll hit 160km/h on the street.

0-100 can vary just as much unless you drive an auto.

How hard you dump the clutch, what rpm you dump the clutch, if you dump the clutch at all, how much wheel spin you get off the line, how quickly you can slam 2nd & 3rd (or if you have Matt's FFS, can it keep up human reflexes), will affect your 0-100 figure just the same as a 1/4 run.

Just get Owen to drag Jay's and another car (gti?) to compare

Apparently it's unfair because I have APR DSG software..

I even offered to race him in a 90kw 1.6NA earlier this month, he made it sound like he was all keen, then bricked his ecu on purpose so he wouldn't have to lose.

[alexeiwoody]

Apparently it's unfair because I have APR DSG software..

I even offered to race him in a 90kw 1.6NA earlier this month, he made it sound like he was all keen, then bricked his ecu on purpose so he wouldn't have to lose.

LOL, now it all makes sense!

I also meant if you actually drive the H6 at the drags.

[peadya100]

Actually, what i was saying by 0-100 being a real world measure is that its a more relavant figure as its a measure used by all car manufacturers and reviewers. Personally id rather know how my car compares against all cars, not just modified cars that have been to the drags. Just as Jay was saying his car is quicker than an 07 STi.

I understand you can get a more accurate 0-100 time at the drags. But even then its only a good comparison against cars that have a drag strip 0-100 time as the grip at the drags is much better isnt it?

[owen]

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In this particular case, no. Because a car with Jay's moderate amount of power would achieve a quicker 0-100 or 1/4 time on street tyres than on semis. Street tyres would allow him to launch at 5000rpm and have just enough wheel spin to stay within the power band, whereas too much traction would mean it bogs down losing a precious second.

So, think about this scenario. My turbo liberty on the shithouse Wanli tyres that came with my new rims will smoke all the way thru first with an aggressive launch and halfway thru second if I dump the clutch. Now, Jay's car would most likely be at 100kph the same time as me because his will wheel spin for a split second at 5000rpm while mine would be bouncing off the limited struggling for grip.

Next question, what's more important to you? Dragging people off the line to 100? Or having that midrange pull to overtake trucks/pull out of corner exits, and that high end power to race cars that count? (My Golf will do 0-100 in the 6 second range. "I beat a Golf last night"..."Who gives a shit?" Or even worse "I got beaten by a Golf last night"

Jay's car, Alex's (Chubbs) car on E85 etc will be no slower to 100 than mine, but Alex will tell you how I overtake them on an on ramp onto the freeway. How often will somebody race you off the lights? 0-100 times are a poor way to gauge power and drivability, especially when you consider cars being designed with super short ratios to look good on paper, then realise they've got fuck all after 100.

[peadya100]

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In this particular case, no. Because a car with Jay's moderate amount of power would achieve a quicker 0-100 or 1/4 time on street tyres than on semis. Street tyres would allow him to launch at 5000rpm and have just enough wheel spin to stay within the power band, whereas too much traction would mean it bogs down losing a precious second.

So, think about this scenario. My turbo liberty on the shithouse Wanli tyres that came with my new rims will smoke all the way thru first with an aggressive launch and halfway thru second if I dump the clutch. Now, Jay's car would most likely be at 100kph the same time as me because his will wheel spin for a split second at 5000rpm while mine would be bouncing off the limited struggling for grip.

Next question, what's more important to you? Dragging people off the line to 100? Or having that midrange pull to overtake trucks/pull out of corner exits, and that high end power to race cars that count? (My Golf will do 0-100 in the 6 second range. "I beat a Golf last night"..."Who gives a shit?" Or even worse "I got beaten by a Golf last night"

Jay's car, Alex's (Chubbs) car on E85 etc will be no slower to 100 than mine, but Alex will tell you how I overtake them on an on ramp onto the freeway. How often will somebody race you off the lights? 0-100 times are a poor way to gauge power and drivability, especially when you consider cars being designed with super short ratios to look good on paper, then realise they've got fuck all after 100.

I get what youre saying, but i wasnt really interested in actually drag racing someone. I live in one of the busier parts in sydney and dont think ive ever seen a drag race in this area as its not possible. My desire to know 0-100 times is more a curiousity thing only. For me its interesting to know what the amg A45 does 0-100 in compaired to mine for example. I dont need to know how much faster it is to 160 from 100 as i dont personally do that around here.

Although knowing how much faster your car is at the drag strip for example is very cool to know, as a direct comparison to a factory car its not very helpful, as im interested in cars other than modified cars too.

**edit** I do get what youre saying about 0-100 times not being a direct comparison of power and drivability, but its really the only comparison i can use.

[owen]

Personally I couldn't give a shit about 1/4 times. Unless you're doing sub 8 secs in a RWD car you don't impress me.
What does impress me is when somebody with a shitbox soccer mum wagon drives it like he stole it thru the twisties every week and only managed to stack it once