Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

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Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby nixwrx » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:48 pm

Guys can someone help me understand what the difference is between these two models? The 3.0R Spec.B appears to be a "July update" to the 3.0R-B?

I'm going by redbook data (and quick google searches), but can't see any difference in their specs.

FWIW interested just for the sedans with a manual transmission.

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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby alessandro132 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:49 pm

Sometimes the latter refer to the post-facelift (i.e. when you search in carsales). 3.0R-B is just an abbreviation of 30.R Spec B.
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby nixwrx » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:55 pm

Hmmm really? Even with different VIN sequences? (sorry should have put this in the first post)

3.0R-B: JF1BLEKN35G.....
3.0R Spec.B: JF1BLEKN36G.....

So there are two different MY05 models of this car, and the facelift is the only difference?
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby zch91 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:54 pm

nixwrx wrote:Hmmm really? Even with different VIN sequences? (sorry should have put this in the first post)

3.0R-B: JF1BLEKN35G.....
3.0R Spec.B: JF1BLEKN36G.....

So there are two different MY05 models of this car, and the facelift is the only difference?


10th Character of the VIN = ModelYear

MY05: JF1BLEKN35G.....
MY06: JF1BLEKN36G.....

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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby Robbks » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:14 pm

MY05 and MY06 are still both pre-facelift and very little differences between them.
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for pre-facelift, MY04-MY06 they were 3.0R-B
for facelifted, MY07-MY09 they were 3.0R specB
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:35 pm

SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.

06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU

I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby Robbks » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:41 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.

06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU

I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.


Matt, does the 06 have the full set of SI drive tables? Just no SI drive dial
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby nixwrx » Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:05 pm

Thanks for the responses guys, brand new to the Liberty's so thanks for the help :-D
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Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:41 pm

Robbks wrote:
KiDo_Tuning wrote:SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.

06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU

I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.


Matt, does the 06 have the full set of SI drive tables? Just no SI drive dial


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Acc A is 1st gear, Accc B is 6th gear and they interpolate between themselves. So you could have 1st at say 75% of the torque(say 240Nm) and 6th at 320Nm, then 4th gear would be 294 max. Then Throttle A and B are the min/max throttle limits for the RT value in Acc A with Throttle C and D are the min/max throttle limits for the RT value in Acc B. There is DBW tables in the same RAM memory as the LV values, just they are not normally accessible without doing a RAM dump.
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