Intercooler: FMIC & TMIC

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Firstly keiran, it was phat who told me to do FMIC, and I never once said that was the only thing I was doing. If you have a look at my profile page, upgrading to FMIC and upgrading the turbo, as well as going full turbo back and getting a tune have always been my goal, I can actually do it this year sooner than later as I have more money and time to leave my car with phat.

Secondly the comments about doing this just cos an aurion beat me have meant to be taken as tongue in cheek, as in it's the thing to finally get off my ass and do the mods I've been planning.

Also brainy have you ever gone against an aurion or driven one yourself? They are 200 kw so aren't slow, and i thought it was a Camry at first so didn't take off quickly like he did, I only put my foot down once I realised he was giving it a go and was only upset cos I couldn't close the gap as quick as I thought I could

Hey Rome,

Actually, yes I've driven one and they are not bad. Having said that, my maxima even so had less kw, was still quicker and well the lib is even quicker...

But Rome, don't read too much into my post, it was just my attempt at some humour while having a dig at a Prius

Ive driven lots of aurions and maximas and they haul ass and would smoke a turbo liberty

[[ITS-STI]]

Not mine... Maybe because i will bring pain upon my vehicle to destroy the humble Toyota simply to show them who is boss!

[Boostaddict]

Does anyone have an issue with removing the crash bar?? Or is it just me?? Something with the name 'crash bar' sorta sound important to me. Couldnt you just move the crash bar forward with some spacers and trim behind the front bar in accordance so that the core can fit in behind??? Or am i just being a bit OCD?? I know that its been done a gudzillion times before on wrx's and libertys etc. I just wouldnt want to be not insured because of this in the event of an accident and for it to have some structual issue with it not being there.

[[ITS-STI]]

Does anyone have an issue with removing the crash bar?? Or is it just me?? Something with the name 'crash bar' sorta sound important to me. Couldnt you just move the crash bar forward with some spacers and trim behind the front bar in accordance so that the core can fit in behind??? Or am i just being a bit OCD?? I know that its been done a gudzillion times before on wrx's and libertys etc. I just wouldnt want to be not insured because of this in the event of an accident and for it to have some structual issue with it not being there.

I'm pretty ocd myself... Hence why i bought Jim's fnic set up because i hardly have to cut my bar... The "crash bar" is ok to remove just four bolts and you can put it back whenever... As long as it is not hacked up i guess it can be interchangable... But i do see where you are coming from in case of accident and maybe voiding insurance? I have a good pannel beater friend so i guess i am safe...

[norbs]

If you value your life and that of your passenger, leave it on ! Serious no no

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If you value your life and that of your passenger, leave it on ! Serious no no

That is why we have a 5 star ANCAP safety rating allong with 6 Airbags... We'll be right!

[Rome_BRZ]

If you value your life and that of your passenger, leave it on ! Serious no no

I highly doubt that one metal beam is going to be the difference between life and death

[Boostaddict]

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That is why we have a 5 star ANCAP safety rating allong with 6 Airbags... We'll be right! [/quote]

But is that crash bar part of that 5 star ANCAP?? Look im not saying that there is anything actually wrong with removing it but can you take that risk??? I would rather leave it in and work around it for safety sake!!!

Edited for sh!t spelling.

[Rome_BRZ]

That is why we have a 5 star ANCAP safety rating allong with 6 Airbags... We'll be right! [/quote]

But is that crash bar part of that 5 star ANCAP?? Look im not saying that there is anything actually wrong with removing it but can you take that risk??? I would rather leave it in and work around it for safety sake!!!

Edited for sh!t spelling.[/quote]

If the crash is bad neon ugh to injure you or kill you, the crash bar wasn't going to save you. I'm not saying your car won't be slightly more dangerous but don't forget you're putting an inter cooler in its place which somewhat minimises this

[Boostaddict]

Im not even thinking of situations where your hurt and or killed. But if you loose control (being a norm) and tag a pole head on at a relatively low speed 20ish kmh it will push furthur into the motor then if the crash bar was there and stopping it at the bar or just past it.

Dunno, would rather keep it then get rid of it for 'just incase' situation.

[Rome_BRZ]

Im not even thinking of situations where your hurt and or killed. But if you loose control (being a norm) and tag a pole head on at a relatively low speed 20ish kmh it will push furthur into the motor then if the crash bar was there and stopping it at the bar or just past it.

Dunno, would rather keep it then get rid of it for 'just incase' situation.

You regularly lose control of your car?

I understand what you're saying though, each to their own. I don't really mind just a matter of opinion.

[bass_straitener]

Can anyone confirm if your car can have a valid insurance policy with the crash bar removed or modified in any way.

My understanding is the crash bar forms part of the vehicles structural integrity and therefore any mods would require an engineers report for registration and insurance.

I'd like to hear from someone who works in the industry, manufacturing or insurance to comment, if possible.

[Rome_BRZ]

Can anyone confirm if your car can have a valid insurance policy with the crash bar removed or modified in any way.

My understanding is the crash bar forms part of the vehicles structural integrity and therefore any mods would require an engineers report for registration and insurance.

I'd like to hear from someone who works in the industry, manufacturing or insurance to comment, if possible.

Best bet would be to cold call the insurance company like I did, get it straight from the horses mouth.

[bass_straitener]

Best bet would be to cold call the insurance company like I did, get it straight from the horses mouth.

And what did they say Rome, please?

I'd like to know if this is an insurance deal breaker or not.

Thanks.

[Rome_BRZ]

Best bet would be to cold call the insurance company like I did, get it straight from the horses mouth.

And what did they say Rome, please?

I'd like to know if this is an insurance deal breaker or not.

Thanks.

I would call them yourself as I don't know who your insurance company is and I went into quite a bit of detail with them over the phone.

I might also add that certain things were said that they probably wouldn't put in writing

I'll add though that of the 4 insurance companies I called 2 won't cover me full stop because of the car I'm driving and my age so not the best example to use. Also if you want to know if it's a deal breaker or not why don't you make the call yourself? I'd rather do that than rely on heresay