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Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:10 pm
by Unown
Hi Guys,
i have subaru outback 1999 2,5 automatic and i can't start my car.
i can see "check engine" indicator in on. When i turn car key to position 2 (start the car), it doesn't start. the engine is trying (turning) but it does not catch.

some ideas? or somebody to help?

live in Maroubra, Sydney

thanks

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:12 pm
by Jordan.k
Can you hear the fuel pump priming?

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:30 pm
by Unown
i'm not sure, i'm laic in these things...how can i identify it ?

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:00 pm
by BillyCorgi
From the web?
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LAIC Check List
First, check immobiliser circuit

[1] When OFF and with key removed does the RED Immobiliser (key shape) icon flash? [Y/N]
[2] When inserting the key into the ignition barrel does the RED Immobiliser (key shape) icon extinguish? [Y/N]
[2a] If NO, what does it do?
[2b] if YES, does the RED Immobiliser (key shape) icon recommence flashing after a short time?
[3] When turning the key to the ON position does the engine crank over?

Go to these posts and read how to check for a Diagnostic Trouble Code from the ECU.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31561&hilit=+connector
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=29897&hilit=+connector
Advise whether you have a DTC in memory.

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:53 am
by Unown
I already know what happened. I've lost a immobiliser chip from key. This is the reason Why I can't start my car. I called to servise (tried just one) and they told me I will cost $250?

I think is too much - does Anyone know about cheaper solution??

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:00 pm
by BillyCorgi
Unown wrote:,,,,,they told me I will cost $250?.....does Anyone know about cheaper solution??

Suppose you could always find the lost transponder chip and put it back in the key?

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:16 pm
by BUDDAH
Outback 1999 2.5 heap of shit burn it cook a pig on it :P

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:56 pm
by Unown
BillyCorgi wrote:
Unown wrote:,,,,,they told me I will cost $250?.....does Anyone know about cheaper solution??

Suppose you could always find the lost transponder chip and put it back in the key?


i tried, but i could find it :/

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:23 pm
by BillyCorgi
Unown wrote:.....i tried, but i could find it :/.....

[1] Find a local auto locksmith that has the ECU key reprogramming tool. (these are a generic German machine sold to and licenced to locksmiths)
[2] you need to get the car will ALL the keys to the locksmith (or he may be able to come to you)
[3] Locksmith will put new transponder chip into you key body
[4] Locksmith will reprogram keys to the ECU and immobiliser.
[4a] A reprogramming sequence wipes all previous entries, that is why ALL key must be reprogramed again
[5] should be around $100
[6] be aware that an ECU reset may occur during the ECU Immobiliser reprogramming.

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:22 pm
by Unown
i wish it was for $100, i have called to to 2 locksmith and they asked me about $220 - $250

is anybody from forum here able to do that ?

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:22 pm
by BillyCorgi
Unown wrote:is anybody from forum here able to do that ?


FIIK. Just do not know. You are playing in a security area that basically has restricted access for a good reason.

You have not listed your location in your details, so basically no one is able to assist you if they are aware of anyone.

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:12 am
by Unown
i live in Maroubra, NSW.

Re: Outback doesn't want start

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:13 am
by BillyCorgi
For what it is worth,
I previously had a third key cut for my 2005 Spec-B wagon.

I used EZY Locksmith at Peakhurst
Ezy Locksmiths
46 Stoney Creek Rd
Peakhurst
0405 200 059

(Let him know he was recommended to you buy a previous customer)

I provided the third key blank and Remote Entry Fob,
He cut the new key, provided the new Transponder Chip, New Battery and reprogrammed all three keys for remote entry and all three keys for the immobiliser.
Was about $130.

You need less than this, only chip and reprogram for immobiliser only.
For $200 to $250 I would want and expect a whole new key as well?!?!?

Over to you!