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Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:07 pm
by SH30RB
i can see them on JapanParts, but says they are only for the turbo models.
is it possible to put them on an N/A or is it even worth it?
what do they do?

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:33 pm
by Kekotic
I think your air intake might get in the way on the NA?

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:36 pm
by SH30RB
ill have a look tomorrow. i always thought it was at the back :?
cusco's website says they have one for an NA wagon, but then again the 3RB is a different wagon to the 2.0 and 2.5

but even if there is, would it be worth it, or not? i do a lot of spirited driving (1/4 hours through mountains, very fun :D )

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:55 pm
by cruisn
It should be the same item for all Gen4's as they dont use a different master cylinder design between models.

I found it helpful in a previous car, but only under hard braking. I also fitted good pads and braided lines. The braided lines make a very noticeable difference.

Better pads and braided lines Id do first.

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:06 pm
by SH30RB
cruisn wrote:It should be the same item for all Gen4's as they dont use a different master cylinder design between models.

I found it helpful in a previous car, but only under hard braking. I also fitted good pads and braided lines. The braided lines make a very noticeable difference.

Better pads and braided lines Id do first.


im planning next year to do a complete overhaul of my suspension and brake set up.
thinking coilovers
sway bars
strut brace
DBA 4000 (they seem to be the go these days, ive read and heard some good reviews. whats your opinion mark?)
and some good quality brake pads.
EDIT: and some braided brake lines too

would it be worth replacing some/all of the bush's?

(please excuse my lack of knowledge)

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:16 pm
by cruisn
Id replace any bushes that are worn to the point of adverse handling, no point replacing all just for the sake of it.

Front strutbrace is purely for wank factor. A rear one is of some benefit in a wagon as theres no frame bewteen the rear struts like a sedan but it wouldnt be at the top of my list.

DBA 4000's will be more than adequate, even overkill for a 15 minute burst through the hills every now and then. Street series would be adequate.

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:21 pm
by SH30RB
cruisn wrote:Id replace any bushes that are worn to the point of adverse handling, no point replacing all just for the sake of it.

Front strutbrace is purely for wank factor. A rear one is of some benefit in a wagon as theres no frame bewteen the rear struts like a sedan but it wouldnt be at the top of my list.

DBA 4000's will be more than adequate, even overkill for a 15 minute burst through the hills every now and then. Street series would be adequate.

its about an hour, travelling over 60k's average with quite a few hairpins and a very twisty road. my favourite part of the trip home.

your knowledge is amazing mark, thank you

oh and as for the bushes, of course :D if it isnt broken, dont fix it.

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:32 pm
by cruisn
No worries. My knowledge is limited compared to others on here. :D

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:43 pm
by SH30RB
oh and i do say coilovers are some times purely for wank factor too, but i hate these king springs and want to upgrade, thought i might as well lash out and get the coilovers

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:48 pm
by t.renshaw34
What type of difference did the braided lines make Mark? Have been looking into these after I do the brake stopper.

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:23 pm
by cruisn
A lot firmer pedal feel and increased braking as all the pressure is going into the piston instead of expanding the rubber brakeline.

Re: Master Cylinder Brake Stopper...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:30 pm
by teK--
It fouls intake on NA 2.5/2.0 I modified the brake stopper slightly and it fits fine now