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Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:18 pm
by alexeiwoody
I had a slightly technical question for you guys, if you could answer it, that would be great!

Whenever I am logging my car during WOT 3rd gear pulls – the logger laptop software drops out. If using an SD card straight into the Tactrix OBDII port – impossible values are recorded in that area for a few seconds.

This happens only on WOT, at around 5000rpm in 3rd gear. 1st and 2nd gear aren’t plagued by this issue.

My initial thoughts were electrical interference – so the engine grounding wires were inspected, brand new car battery, new battery grounding terminals, cables etc. Ferrite chokes on the OBDII wires – nothing has helped.

I’ve tried logging fewer parameters – so far it manages to hold only one parameter without dropping out. This is really useless as other same model ECU/cars seem to have no problem holding 17+, and mine holds 20+ very well as long as I keep the throttle under 90% in 3rd at high rpm.

Different Tactrix OP 2.0 have been used, different laptops and software like EcuEdit have also been used. Same issue.

The rpm needle also hesitates for a second around 5000 when on WOT - someone said it could be related to coil packs/connection.

Please help!!! (if possible :)

Cheers,
Alexei

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:52 am
by Rome_BRZ
I have a similar issue, what actually happens is the logger drops out completely for a space of time, usually between 5,500-6,500 rpm then comes back on...

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:48 pm
by Hotwire
I have the same issue when using Openport 2.0
Never have the issue using cheap VAG-COM cable. So now all my logging is via vag-com to the laptop using romraider.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:55 pm
by Rome_BRZ
Hotwire wrote:I have the same issue when using Openport 2.0
Never have the issue using cheap VAG-COM cable. So now all my logging is via vag-com to the laptop using romraider.


That's disappointing to hear given how expensive an open port is.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:29 pm
by Hotwire
Yup, standalone logging to the OP micro SD card is great in theory... just doesn't work well for my (wife's) car! However, that being said I setup logging for Shav's MY07 and it seemed to be ok. To tell the truth though I never analysed the logs close enough to ensure it didn't happen.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:13 pm
by Rome_BRZ
Hotwire wrote:Yup, standalone logging to the OP micro SD card is great in theory... just doesn't work well for my (wife's) car! However, that being said I setup logging for Shav's MY07 and it seemed to be ok. To tell the truth though I never analysed the logs close enough to ensure it didn't happen.


I don't use the SD card, I log it straight to Romraider, that is where I get the dropouts...

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:24 pm
by Kekotic
I have seen the drop outs on SD card so it's not immune there. I haven't seen them on rom raider though, although I barely have used that to log my car.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:25 pm
by kiahatsiu
Mine craps out when logging too. Who knows.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:09 am
by Rome_BRZ
kiahatsiu wrote:Mine craps out when logging too. Who knows.


What a freaking pain in the anus hole.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:21 am
by kiahatsiu
Meh, i try to avoid logging on the street. In cars like ours it is federal 'pound me in the ass' prison if you get caught doing it.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:51 am
by alexeiwoody
Thanks guys,

I'll try using the vag com cable, do you guys know a cheap place to buy one?

Also on advice of some tuners going to replace plugs today and check a good connection of the coils. The 5000rpm area is meant to be the climax of the electrical charge and that seems too much of a coincidence

Mine reconnects same as yours Jerome, just to tell me everything is cool at 6500....thanks tactrix :D

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:36 pm
by alexeiwoody
Issue fixed. Tactrix works fine :)

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:56 pm
by bass_straitener
alexeiwoody wrote:Issue fixed. Tactrix works fine :)


Care to share the fix.

Was it shielding your cables from stereo cross talk, ferrite chokes or something else.

Were any Zener diodes used in the fix?

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:03 pm
by alexeiwoody
Ferrite chokes on the obdII wires helped, new battery also helped stabilise the connection - but new spark plugs fixed the issue.

Re: Logger dropping out/RPM hesitates?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:06 pm
by Kekotic
Just for reference I had new spark plugs put in but my issue was still present. I might try those Ferrite chokes / clean the battery terminals up.