The E85 Thread

[Gambit]

Yeah i gave the manager a United an absolute earful about how abismal their rollout was and that there was a massive gap in supply for inner melb. Hopefully they sort it out quicksmart.

[kiahatsiu]

Just flick a couple of playing cards around, they will get their attention Gambit.

[Kekotic]

Caltex thinking about getting their oil refined overseas or something I heard this morning on the news. Will this effect Caltex E85 if it goes ahead?

[Gambit]

Not too sure about Caltex, but i know United is now vertically integrated with its refinery after its purchase of Dalby bio fuels last year.
Good news for consumers as United can now directly control quality of the product.
I made it clear to them that its critical that consistency of quality remains the same. United should sell straight E85 and not a flex ethanol product like its competitor Caltex. He said they were planning to roll out E85 to all major stations, yet to be seen.

[coyote]

He said they were planning to roll out E85 to all major stations

Nationwide?

You've got my attention!

[Gambit]

Yes nationwide. He said it was part of their national strategy alongside the acquisition of dalby. Makes sense in terms of the new carbon tax incentives offered on alternative bio fuels.

[Rome_BRZ]

I had a quick squiz of the United website, where can you find their locations? I don't recall seeing one anywhere in my area.

[Gambit]

Dont you guys keep up to date with legislation that passes through parliment?

The alternative Fuel legislation was introduced into parliment in May 2011, Biofuel companies producing Ethanol get a grant according to this table:
Rate of grant for ethanol:

The rate is:
1 After 30 November 2011 and before 1 July 2012 $0.2375 a litre
2 After 30 June 2012 and before 1 July 2013 $0.194 a litre
3 After 30 June 2013 and before 1 July 2014 $0.1505 a litre
4 After 30 June 2014 and before 1 July 2015 $0.106 a litre
5 After 30 June 2015 and before 1 July 2016 $0.0625 a litre
6 After 30 June 2016 and before 1 July 2017 $0.05 a litre
7 After 30 June 2017 and before 1 July 2018 $0.0375 a litre
8 After 30 June 2018 and before 1 July 2019 $0.025 a litre
9 After 30 June 2019 $0.0125 a litre

Unlike the guys in the US, they will no longer be getting grants for the production of Ethanol from corn.

[coyote]

They call them grants, but they are really excise offsets.

Supposed to be abolished last year (which would have destroyed the industry), but are now being phased out over a decade.

I don't know how United price their ethanol, but Caltex peg it to the cost of unleaded, which effectively results in a reduction of the % discount each time oil prices go up.

It's still cheaper than C16, which is probably what it should be compared to.

[Gambit]

^ yeah agreed.
All i smell now is ethanol everywhere, everything smells like it now, cant get it out of my nose!

[senator]

It's still cheaper than C16, which is probably what it should be compared to.

Ssshhhhh they might hear you.

If all goes to plan I should be joining the rest of you corn juice lovers in are few weeks.

What ever happened to the Nationwide rollout by Shell, it’s no longer on their website and was meant to happen across most of their sites prior to the release of the Series 2 Commodore.

[dr20t]

My e85 tune was booked for this tuesday but with the convertor problems I had at the drags ivr cancelled and waiting to fix that first

Imrunning Id1000's, walbro 265lph, sard fpr and braided lines

Should be good for 250awkw on my 2litre

Mick

[Gambit]

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[bass_straitener]

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Thanks Anthony but nothing on those lists is too close to Blackburn and nothing at all down the coast.

[jaydece]

I thought I'd contribute to this thread:

For those who'd like to compare station to station, tuning wise, or compare between E FLEX fuels and united E85 ( they say it's actually E90 )

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/QUICK-FUEL-RACE-MARINE-ALCOHOL-ETHANOL-E85-TEST-KIT-/200364597073

and yes I did buy one to check out united premium 100 ( 10% ethanol ) and E85......speed pro in dandy also sell this tester for about the same price or bit cheaper...

or this for more accurate bling bling / hardcore reading in realtime:

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/Products.htm

- Ethanol Content Analyzer
- Flex Fuel Sensor

OR purchase the holden commodore E85 content analyzer.....I heard it's not cheap though....

Also I rang the following united stations below today to confirm they had E85 / PREM 100 and are 24/7 operated...I will ring the other stations progressively and update this list...

** UNITED PETROL STATIONS ONLY ** updated 20/09/2012

METRO
South Melbourne (Kingsway) - 151-169 Kingsway
West Gate North - 1 West Gate Freeway, Port Melbourne
West Gate South - 2 West Gate Freeway, Port Melbourne

NORTH
Fitzroy North - 390 Nicholson Street
Doreen - 340 Bridge Inn Road
Kew - 103 to 105 Earl Street

SOUTH
Hallam - Cnr Princes Highway & Belgrave Hallam Road
Patterson Lakes - 1 Thompson Road
Clayton - 1644 Princess Highway
Mornington - 211 Mornington - Tyabb Rd
Frankston - 51 Davey Street

EAST
Balwyn - 99 Balwyn Road
Scoresby - Lot 2A Ferntree Gully Road
Braeside - 402- 404 Lower Dandenong Road
Lilydale - 473 Maroondah Hwy

WEST
Altona North - 2 Pinnacle Road
Deer Park - 283 Station Street
Point Cook - 1 Wallace Avenue
Hoppers Crossing - 160 Old Geelong Road

COUNTRY-OUTBACK