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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Very interesting dazz

What trap speed?
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dazzz168 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:41 pm

dr20t wrote:Very interesting dazz

What trap speed?


Here's the time sheet. On another run, I did 13.6 with a 2k rpm launch, but landed a higher trap speed... was my first time at drags and was still learning to launch. :D
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dazzz168 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:45 pm

Sorry OP for taking this off topic.

I should start a little build thread here on club lib, but will wait till I get the kit on :lol:
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:45 pm

100mph in 1550kg car = 200-210atw

So I guess you can do 200 on a vf52

Did some digging and the wrx fuel pumps are different to liberty pump but don't know the difference in flow
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby Kekotic » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:51 pm

dr20t wrote:100mph in 1550kg car = 200-210atw

So I guess you can do 200 on a vf52

Did some digging and the wrx fuel pumps are different to liberty pump but don't know the difference in flow


Bruce has his VF52 on 203kw on 98 on a mainline dyno. He is running different fuel pump/injectors/parallel fuel rails though so the whole injector/pump thing doesn't apply to him I guess.
And Coyote used to run 200+ on his VF52 although he never posted his power cause he's oldskool

Again though the whole everyone saying you need bigger injectors things comes in to play. People on the forum who ran 200+ on Libs always said you needed bigger injectors and fuel pump.
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dazzz168 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:54 pm

Yeah, they are easily capable of 200KW on 98ron. Give it bigger injectors, fuel pump, Corn juice and mid 12s can be achieved hopefully... I'll report back with results once I get round to it. :D
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:57 pm

No discrespect to Bruce but a hub dyno is not the same as a wheel dyno

It boils down to risk - why risk running on the edge when for an extra few hundred you can be safe?

500's would be at 90% plus duty cycle which is not cool in my mind

Stock pump well I've gone through all that earlier but I personally wouldn't risk it

Dazz has obviously done it and backed it up with figures that's why I said 200 can be done as its the first "proper" evidence of 200 atw (don't know if coyote ran his but if he says its over 200 then I believe him)
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:58 pm

Btw dazz I though you were booted off from here ....! :D :twisted:
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dazzz168 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:03 pm

dr20t wrote:Btw dazz I though you were booted off from here ....! :D :twisted:

hahah! I thought it was just off that funny thread :lol: Plus, VF52's are right up my alley :D
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby Kekotic » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:08 pm

dr20t wrote:No discrespect to Bruce but a hub dyno is not the same as a wheel dyno

It boils down to risk - why risk running on the edge when for an extra few hundred you can be safe?

500's would be at 90% plus duty cycle which is not cool in my mind

Stock pump well I've gone through all that earlier but I personally wouldn't risk it

Dazz has obviously done it and backed it up with figures that's why I said 200 can be done as its the first "proper" evidence of 200 atw (don't know if coyote ran his but if he says its over 200 then I believe him)


I don't want to sound like a retard.....but isn't a mainline dyno a wheel dyno? Last time Bruce was on a hub dyno was at Failzone wasn't it?
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby bass_straitener » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:14 pm

dr20t wrote:No discrespect to Bruce but a hub dyno is not the same as a wheel dyno

It boils down to risk - why risk running on the edge when for an extra few hundred you can be safe?

500's would be at 90% plus duty cycle which is not cool in my mind

Stock pump well I've gone through all that earlier but I personally wouldn't risk it

Dazz has obviously done it and backed it up with figures that's why I said 200 can be done as its the first "proper" evidence of 200 atw (don't know if coyote ran his but if he says its over 200 then I believe him)


No disrespect, but Matt tuned your car at JEM which is also a Mainline dyno.

Now you should know a bit better than that.. :lol:

At the time I was contemplating E85 and therefore I did the injectors, and an AVO parallel line kit at the same time.

Running ID1000s is probably not the greatest or even necessary for P98 fuel as the IDC is a bit low and therefore fuel atomisation and the spray pattern can suffer.

Hence I have the rising rate FPR to help.

Where does it all end........ :lol:
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:16 pm

Msr uses a hub dyno no??

Jem was a roller dyno
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby bass_straitener » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:16 pm

dr20t wrote:Msr uses a hub dyno no??

Jem was a roller dyno


Check again please Mick....

Same dyno dude... :D
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dazzz168 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:17 pm

MSR = Mainline Rollers.

For those that are interested, here's two 0-100 sprints logged of my Forester. Mods are only X-Force dump and Turbosmart Kompact BOV, then another run with CAI, everyting else stock as a rock.
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Re: Dyno Charts

Postby dr20t » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:23 pm

My bad Bruce I thought msr still uses hub dyno

Dazz on my I phone so can't check logs but what idc are you seeing ?

As for id1000's being bad at low idc - unless you're comparing to factory injectors then i disagree. Latency / pulse width on the id1000's is perfect even at the 45% I was seeing on 98 when making 196 atw. The idle was better than stock!

A few people here running sard / denso 600 /700cc injectors also complain about the idle issues due to not being able to get correct scaling - bad pulsewidth
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