Guide to tuners, who locks and who doesn't.

[Kekotic]

Okay so are there no tuners who leave it completely unlocked and viewable?

[XT_for_me]

When I used Springy Motors 3 years ago they used RomRaider to tune and there was no locking at all. I later edited the tune myself to change a couple of minor items to suit my personal taste.

I have heard (note: hear say follows) that HPF are now using open source (read RomRaider) to tune rather than EcuTek which is locked and must be unlocked to install another tune. HPF are not listed on the EcuTek website anymore.

[hks180]

another thing to note that Pulse had used ECUTEK to tune cars even when the customer had asked for an open source tune.....i know of 2 owners that were in that position, they were also charged to unlock the ECU.

hmm that sounds like me ... haha

i didn't signed any form or been told my ECU going to get locked.
only to find out the hard way ... and got charged to unlock the ECU plus towing cost ..

Leo

[coyote]

Leo, you'll need the ability to switch between maps yourself once you're running E85

HPF are not listed on the EcuTek website anymore.

You don't need Ecutek to lock tunes or ECUs. Although it goes completely against the purposes for which the community tuning tools were created, it is very easy to do it using them.

[coyote]

Okay so are there no tuners who leave it completely unlocked and viewable?

My understand of what Gambit was saying is that Springy Motors don't lock you out of anything.

[hks180]

Leo, you'll need the ability to switch between maps yourself once you're running E85

yeah mike was telling me that .. and told me just get a drum of E85 at home and fill up myself as the supply here is quiet limited.

Last time when i was with Mike and Scott .. Scott was saying his working on a computer can adjust the tune base what fuel your using ? so if there is 80% E85 and 20% 98 in your tank ... the computer will adjust the tune to suit ?!? i really like the sound of that ! haha

Leo

[senator]

Last time when i was with Mike and Scott .. Scott was saying his working on a computer can adjust the tune base what fuel your using ? so if there is 80% E85 and 20% 98 in your tank ... the computer will adjust the tune to suit ?!? i really like the sound of that ! haha

Leo

Your not the only one

[Rome_BRZ]

Last time when i was with Mike and Scott .. Scott was saying his working on a computer can adjust the tune base what fuel your using ? so if there is 80% E85 and 20% 98 in your tank ... the computer will adjust the tune to suit ?!? i really like the sound of that ! haha

Leo

Your not the only one

Can't wait til I'm at that stage!

[libz05]

hey guys,
this may be a noob question but what are the disadvantages of a tuner locking your ECU after they tune it ?
does anyone know if MSR lock the ECU also? i was thinking of going to MSR as ive heard alot of good feedback from people with liberty's.
thanks

[libsti]

i must have been one of the lucky ones but pulse didnt lock my tune, have since taken it to scott at insight at blacktown and he hasnt locked it. i have to say i went back a second time to scott for a re tune,he spent over 4 hours on it and didnt charge me a cent .

one on the more decent tuners.


norm

[Kekotic]

Okay so are there no tuners who leave it completely unlocked and viewable?

My understand of what Gambit was saying is that Springy Motors don't lock you out of anything.

He says you can't even read it?

[Gambit]

Springy Motors do not lock any part of the ECU or the Tune, it's essentially an Open ECU tune. Thats viewable to anyone after they tune it.

[Kekotic]

Okay awesome, so I could get an initial tune done there and then tweak it myself? Would make things easier rather than trying to learn from scratch.
Can just compare a stock Rom to their tune to see what they change.

[brainy]

At a guess, when you get your car tuned by Danny, you won't need to change anything.

[Kekotic]

At a guess, when you get your car tuned by Danny, you won't need to change anything.

Coyote will tell you otherwise