Guide to tuners, who locks and who doesn't.

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Re: Guide to tuners, who locks and who doesn't.

Postby Sgottlieb » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:13 pm

Manaz wrote:
Sgottlieb wrote:
tangcla wrote:AutoRacingTechnik (ART)

Locked: No
Advised: No need


Just saw this and had to post.

Does this mean you you advise people to get a tune from Ray or not?
If yes then I advise against any dealings with ART in any way shape or form.


He isn't recommending ART. What he means is that ART don't lock the ECU when they do tunes, and thus there's no need for them to inform the customer of anything.

If you read further up in the thread, you'll find that there are number of tuners who lock the ECU (there are a variety of ways, some are more effective than others) so that the tune can either not be read at all, or cannot be modified. From a moral/ethical standpoint, many (myself included) consider that if a tuner does this, he/she *must* inform the customer of this, explain to them the process (and any costs) for removing the lock or reverting the tune back to stock, and any potential outcomes (you'll see comments made about bricked ECUs after some tunes have been removed), so that the customer can make an educated decision as to whether they proceed with a tune or not. Unfortunately, it appears that some tuners are not making these things clear, and that is disappointing.


Ah right! Thanks for that. just didn't read it properly.
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Re: Guide to tuners, who locks and who doesn't.

Postby jaydece » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:40 pm

Sgottlieb wrote:
tangcla wrote:AutoRacingTechnik (ART)

Locked: No
Advised: No need


Just saw this and had to post.

Does this mean you you advise people to get a tune from Ray or not?
If yes then I advise against any dealings with ART in any way shape or form.


Mr tang is practically family with Ray at ART ... 8) :mrgreen: His S4 has a ART tune and all this time hasn't had any issues...

You cant change his mind anyway Simon....Clarence is stubborn.....hehehehe :P

I know Clarence and some others haven't had issues with ART but I have heard of the horror stories too...
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Re: Guide to tuners, who locks and who doesn't.

Postby RX25SE » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:20 pm

Had a bit of a read of this thread, very informative so thanks for the info.

I just tried logging my 30RB using a Tactrix and Rom Raider and I suspect the ECU is locked.
It won't log and flashes 'access denied' to the .csv file at the bottom of the screen.

I guess this means the ecu is locked?

From what I have read, I should be able to re flash the std rom if the tune is locked but the ecu is not?

What I do know is the previous owner had a re tune done at Techworkz in Canberra. Does anyone here know who they use for their tuning?
I'm hoping there is an agent in Melbourne who can unlock it, otherwise I suspect I will have to treat it as bricked and go around it that way.
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