Billies V Standard

[cruisn]

After some info if someone is in the know as to if the Spec B Bilsteins sit the wagon lower than stock GT suspension?

Ive seen a few Gen4 wagons (non spec B) that bounce a bit in the back on the stock suspension as does my wifes, so was looking at putting the Billies in to minimise this. Springs are on the cards also, but want to know how they sit stock.

Cheers

[Lukovitch]

I'm pretty sure they don't alter ride height at all. If you want it to sit lower, you'll need lower springs to go with them...

[teK--]

If you fit the same spring to the same car but swap the struts between Billies and the KYBs that are fitted stock to the GT, you will likely find that the front ends up sitting a little higher due to the spring perch on the Billies being a different height.

To get around this you need springs that are from the Spec B (or get lowering springs which are based on the JDM GT, since they have Billies fitted as standard).

[Lib 3.0LR]

I will post shots and tell you how its sits when i install these bilstien with Eibach springs on my wagon

[06 blitzen]

im also interested....i have the 30.rb with the billies and a looking to lower the ride height.
was hoping it could be as simple as purchasing some quality lowering springs as i love the ride quality of the bilsteins

[cruisn]

Thanks for the replies, but some have missed the jist of what i was after.

Stock GTB Billies inc springs V stock GT KYB's inc springs. Anyone know 100% if theres a height difference?

The stock GTB's ive seen around look to sit a little lower than my GT. So just curious. I will be buying Bilsteins soon anyway so will measure before and after. Once the 18's and lip are one I can revisit the height and assess a spring change, but it would only be for a set of 15mm STi pinks.

Cheers

[Arith]

I've put stock springs on Bilsteins on a MY05 GT before, and the rear actually sits a bit lower than with KYBs. However as Tek was saying, the fronts sat about 5-10mm higher due to the stiffer Bilstein dampers.

[ThirstyAs]

I heard around some where the Spec B's actually sit a smidge higher than stock gt's, its the 18" rim on the spec b's that hide it vs the 17" on the stock gt - ie with the bigger rim on the spec b your eys perceive the car to be lower

[cruisn]

I heard around some where the Spec B's actually sit a smidge higher than stock gt's, its the 18" rim on the spec b's that hide it vs the 17" on the stock gt - ie with the bigger rim on the spec b your eys perceive the car to be lower

Thats a pretty good point there.

Higher might be better for the wife with the STi lip.

[Adrian2627]

The Bilstein shock/spring set-up is 10mm lower than the standard GT gear. However as was pointed out the bigger wheel/tyre combo also pretty much evens them out to give a 150mm ride height.

One thing to be aware of also is that JDM shock/spring combos will give a firmer ride than the ADM version due to more damping/ higher spring rates

[cruisn]

The Bilstein shock/spring set-up is 10mm lower than the standard GT gear. However as was pointed out the bigger wheel/tyre combo also pretty much evens them out to give a 150mm ride height.

One thing to be aware of also is that JDM shock/spring combos will give a firmer ride than the ADM version due to more damping/ higher spring rates

Cheers Adrian. The exact info i was after.

With that being the case, i think a set of Billies will sit the car nicely with the 18's. A little bit firmer will be good also as they are being sourced from Japan.

[Adrian2627]

You will still get a larger gap over the front than the back but with the 18" wheel/tyre it shouldn't look too bad. I've got JDM Bilsteins in my car and it's firmer but still a pretty good ride. It passes the MRS test, ie the wife doesn't complain that the car is to stiff on the country roads around Jindabyne.

[Cassius]

Hello, the eibachs that you are using,did they come from the eibach pro kit and how do you find the fit since when I checked out the eibachs they say that they are only for the GT/GT spec B?

I will post shots and tell you how its sits when i install these bilstien with Eibach springs on my wagon

[cruisn]

You will still get a larger gap over the front than the back but with the 18" wheel/tyre it shouldn't look too bad. I've got JDM Bilsteins in my car and it's firmer but still a pretty good ride. It passes the MRS test, ie the wife doesn't complain that the car is to stiff on the country roads around Jindabyne.

I'll live with the gap. It should see the STi lip last a little longer with the wife behind the wheel.

Bilsteins have been purchased, so now just have to wait for arrival.

[Adrian2627]

I'll live with the gap. It should see the STi lip last a little longer with the wife behind the wheel.

Ah, part two of the MRS test. Does she rip the front end clean off the car? Mine with the Bilstein/Whiteline combo is lower but not gutter smashingly low which also passes part two.

Just as a note, my MRS drives an Outback. Gotta love the ground clearence.