Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solved.

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Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solved.

Postby HODMAN » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:10 pm

Thought I might finally be able to make a considerable contribution to the forum after many years of sucking information from it :oops: .
It might even be too late to interest people but I finally got the SWC in my pre-FL wagon to work with the post FL Mcintosh installed.
(Thank you to all those who posted relevant info on this site as none of it was mine. I only had to find the right pieces and put my little jigsaw together.)

I have a pre-facelift Gen IV B-spec. (No SatNav, No cameras, 6MT)
I replaced the PF2551I Mac HU with a PF2824I Mac HU.
I am left with no SWC.
The left A/C knob does nothing and the HU dimmer no longer dims.
It was almost plug-n-play :angry2: .

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The 8 pin i85 plug only had 1 x green wire and the plug body did not fit the PF2824I HU.
The 20 pin i86 plug only had 4 x wires (Brown, Yellow, Blue/white & White) & only the SWC were affected when left unplugged from the old PF2551I HU.

My research found the single green wire fixed my HU light dimming when plugged into pin 2 of i86.
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(Sorry about upside down and blurred)

Further on after much trolling on the site, SWC mods were posted and this picture:
(thanks to "m48")

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The new HU wiring diagram showed the Orange/white & Purple wires came from pins 3 & 9 of plug i26 and led to the SWC.
I did not have those colours from i26 of my old HU.
So the new HU needed signals to plug i26 pins 3 & 9 (But I couldn't find them).
Other Wiring diagrams showed the Brown & Yellow wires in plug i86 for SWC signals from some strange "LAN" module (What was that suppose to be?)(I had Brown & Yellow, were these the same?).

The picture was of the LAN module.
I found the LAN module and found the missing link to my dilemma.

The Brown & Yellow from my old HU plug was right next to the Orange/white & Purple wires (from the SWC) and all 4 were plugged into the LAN module.
I tested the resistances correctly and (I'm not real bright but) all I had to do was to join the appropriate colours to by-pass the LAN module.
Just move the Brown & Yellow wires from i86 to i26 for the newer HU and BINGO! :air_kiss:

I tested the SWC and went and had a well earned drink because I had been trolling for these jigsaw pieces for about 4 years.(not real quick either).

Thx anyhow for anyone that helped in my journey.
Hope this might help someone else upgrade their HU from a pre-FL HU to a post-FL HU.
I have had a good run of it so far with no failures of the newer FL HU.

Cheers
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby trolley » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:32 pm

Good work Detective McIntosh... You did earn that drink (and the 4 years worth of drinks :lol: )
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby GTbee » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:20 pm

But is it worth upgrading to a post FL McIntosh? Apart from MP3 compatibility what are the benefits, if any?
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby HODMAN » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:43 pm

GTbee wrote:But is it worth upgrading to a post FL McIntosh? Apart from MP3 compatibility what are the benefits, if any?


Speaking for myself;
Back when I didnt know what I know now, I needed the simplest replacement for plug and play.
I didnt even know there was something called a post FL model.
When it arrived I thought the extra features would be great.
Result, it wasnt plug and play but it got me out of trouble.

At least now I have the option of normal aux set-up and the option of Mp3 and now that I know the wiring fix it is quite simple for anyone who wants to keep the OEM look.

I would have loved a 'flash' 2 din engineered system but I had no resources to accomplish that.

So if any has any questions about the conversion, please do not hesitate to ask.

Cheers
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby ellfra » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:43 am

Greg, hi. I just started on this adventure and discovered the same issues you describe, additionally the single zone A/C control does not work so the unit has been pulled out until I can sort that issue as well - meanwhile your post is pure gold and has helped reduce the wife's ridicule for having "purchased a dud"!

Cheers,
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby HODMAN » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:23 pm

Geoff

Glad it helped.
If there are any questions just let me know.

Cheers
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby ellfra » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:00 pm

Hod, one question, can you confirm for me that the HVAC controls from the post F/L worked straight up with your pre F/L hardware? I can't get the new HVAC to work but am not sure if its because of a faulty unit or a compatibility issue.

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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby HODMAN » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:57 am

Geoff

Sorry to take so long to reply.

The HVAC was plug n play for me with a couple of conditions;

1. Accept the fact that I do not have dual zone so only the drivers side control knob had any affect.
2. Come to grips with the notion that the passenger side knob was now a dummy knob.

So far its all been acceptable.
I dont have any technical equipment to measure these properly and my wife tends to just set it on the lowest value most of the time.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
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Re: Updating your Pre-FL McIntosh with Post-FL Mcintosh solv

Postby ellfra » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:34 pm

Thanks Hod, understood. I probably need to confirm the 'new' HVAC is functioning properly before I go ahead with any more changes.
Thanks again for your detailed post, I'm sure it has helped a bunch of people with the swap.
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