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Any thoughts on this unit?

I just ordered my fascia kit via avojdm as the exchange rates are good at present.

What cables do most of you run to your speakers, by the way?

Are you sticking with stock speakers? If so, just stick with the existing looms/wiring

seanmau5 wrote:Are you sticking with stock speakers? If so, just stick with the existing looms/wiring

Nah, I've already got ol school Pioneer TS-C woofers in the front and they sound bass-less without the crossovers haha ...so I'm hoping to run new wires into the crossover

Will I need a Subaru-Pioneer 'adapter', by the way?

Do you have the Kenwood or the McIntosh system in your car?

Yea you'll need an adapter so you don't have to chop up your factory loom. I'm using 16 gauge I think. Make sure the pins on the harnesses match up otherwise shit won't work

seanmau5 wrote:Yea you'll need an adapter so you don't have to chop up your factory loom. I'm using 16 gauge I think. Make sure the pins on the harnesses match up otherwise shit won't work

Cheers mate. I am looking into 16 AWG actually.

I just found this via ebay:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PC2-44-4-SUB ... 231f5ffaec

I'm still waiting for AVOJDM to process my fascia kit order...

Don't bother upgrading your wiring till you start putting big power into your speakers. Real world differences are negligible.

garbo41610 wrote:Don't bother upgrading your wiring till you start putting big power into your speakers. Real world differences are negligible.

Advice taken into consideration

garbo41610 wrote:Don't bother upgrading your wiring till you start putting big power into your speakers. Real world differences are negligible.

Amplified aftermarket speakers require speaker wire to be run from the amp to the door; is this what you're referring to? If they're running off the head unit then you don't need to worry.

seanmau5 wrote:

garbo41610 wrote:Don't bother upgrading your wiring till you start putting big power into your speakers. Real world differences are negligible.

Amplified aftermarket speakers require new speaker anyway don't they? If they're running of the head unit then you don't need to worry.

They don't 'need' to be upgraded, but i'd recommend it for better sound quality Stock ones turn to crap over the years

zch91 wrote:

seanmau5 wrote:

garbo41610 wrote:Don't bother upgrading your wiring till you start putting big power into your speakers. Real world differences are negligible.

Amplified aftermarket speakers require new speaker anyway don't they? If they're running of the head unit then you don't need to worry.

They don't 'need' to be upgraded, but i'd recommend it for better sound quality Stock ones turn to crap over the years

As I said, in the real world, with a car driving, road noise etc etc, the difference is negligible.

In my old Laser, I ran around 120wRMS to a set of splits over factory wiring for over two years without issue. When I eventually upgraded my factory wiring in preparation for a bigger amp, there was no difference in sound quality at all. This is in doors that were completely sealed, deadened etc etc etc.

Sorry guys, edited my post after reading it because it didn't read as I wanted it to. What I'm saying is if cooki_monsta is amplifying aftermarket speakers (standard Kenwood system) then he needs to run speaker wire as its non existent.. But if they're running directly off the head unit then just stick with the stock wiring

I've canned the idea of a Pioneer source unit; the user interface is horrible when compared to Alpine units. I'm looking into the ICS-X7 now.