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Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:48 am
by SubaruTim
Hi All,

I've decided that my 1992 Subaru Liberty LX needs a bit more stiffness and therefore want to fit a fatter rear sway bar.
I found the following on the whiteline website and I want to be sure that it is all I need. The site seems to refer to this a a 'kit', does it come with the current bushings and grease?

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... er=BSR17XZ

Thanks for the advice in advance!

Tim

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:04 am
by t.renshaw34
Comes with Poly bushes, a little packet of grease and fitting instructions for you mate.
Flick me a PM if you like. I can do you one at about 20% cheaper than their listed price.

Taylor :)

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:13 pm
by SubaruTim
Hi All,

I've just recieved (thanks t.renshaw) my new sway bar and fitted it.
BOY does it make a difference!! I'm loving the extra grip and the lack of body roll.

Only two downsides:
1) I wasn't able to get it to the second (middle hole) where I originally wanted it
2) There is quite a lot of noise when I go over bumps.

I'm aware I need some sort of rubber bush to help the sway bar stay still but i'm a little lost in all the whiteline products on their website. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? See below a picture of the attached sway bar.

Thanks!

Image

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:36 pm
by Stomps
what do you mean a lot of noise?

also, PLEASE tell me that the picture above is not "finished".. you did tighten that bolt ALL the way yeah?

i know it seems like a really obvious thing to ask.. but i've seen people do some pretty fucking stupid shit on cars before so thought i would ask.. especially if you say you are getting "a lot of noise"

One thing to note with whiteline sway bars is that they use quite a thick layer of powder coating.. over a month or so it will wear through and it can come a little loose.. this can lead to hearing a faint knock as the swaybar moves around... to fix this you just re-tighten the nut...

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:06 pm
by SubaruTim
Stomps wrote:what do you mean a lot of noise?

also, PLEASE tell me that the picture above is not "finished".. you did tighten that bolt ALL the way yeah?


Have a look at page 17 of this doco:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a0byxzq0dns
Specifically T9 in the figure referring to the bolt pictured previously.
Also note, the bushing noted in the doco as #27 was not present when I took the old (stock) bar off.

When i say 'a lot of noise' i mean I can hear the bar moving laterally inside the bracket whenever I go over a bump (similar to the sound you hear when pulling a trailer).

The sway bar (rear stabilizer) is attached to an H bracket, if I tightened the bolt any more the bracket would start bending. The screw is screwed in the same amount as when it was attached to the original bar. The sway bar i removed had a thicker connection with rubber bushings and this stopped it moving laterally inside the bracket. I just need parts that will act as rubber bushings for this new bar.

whitline.com.au have some bushings that I think are meant for this but i'm just not sure.

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:54 pm
by Robbks
that's all kinds of farked up.

yours is FWD being an LX I assume?

that swaybay needs the later model C links by the looks of it
I suspect that swaybar is NOT for the FWD models

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:02 pm
by Stomps
Hey.. Sorry, was looking at the pic on my phone. Just went back and had a better look.. I see what you mean regarding the bracket..

I'm with Robbks on this one.. Either it's the wrong bar or something is missing..I'll have a look at the website when I get back to my desk..

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:55 pm
by SubaruTim
Stomps wrote:Hey.. Sorry, was looking at the pic on my phone. Just went back and had a better look.. I see what you mean regarding the bracket..

I'm with Robbks on this one.. Either it's the wrong bar or something is missing.


I'm pretty sure this is the right bar for my car...

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... _vehicle=1
"Vehicle Applications"
SUBARU LIBERTY BC SEDAN, BF WAGON INCL RS TURBO (LEGACY)(10/89-5/94)

Mine being a May 1992 Subaru Liberty LX Manual FWD 5 speed.

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:11 pm
by Stomps
hang on a minute.. did you get the 20mm or the 22mm?

your original link is to the 20mm (BSR17XZ) Suits 89 - 9/92 models - 3 point adjustable

yet your second link is to the 22mm (BSR19XXZ) Suits models 10/92-5/94 - 3 point adjustable

yours, being an 05/92 would need the BSR17XZ...

have you got any more photos?

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:16 pm
by SubaruTim
On the advice of t.renshaw I got the 19XXZ instead as the 3-point adjustable gives a range of 19-22mm where the 17XZ only give 17-20mm.

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:36 pm
by Robbks
you may need one of the Swaybar link kits

like this
See how teh link attaches to the suspension arm on one end and the swaybar on the other
Image
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... mber=KLC19

or these
http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/thum ... W22260.jpg

I'm not 100% sure
i haven't fitted a bar to an early model like that before
Ask the guys on RSLC

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:40 pm
by SubaruTim
Robbks wrote:you may need one of the Swaybar link kits

like this
See how teh link attaches to the suspension arm on one end and the swaybar on the other
Image
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... mber=KLC19

or these
http://www.whiteline.com.au/images/thum ... W22260.jpg

I'm not 100% sure
i haven't fitted a bar to an early model like that before
Ask the guys on RSLC



Judging by the URL you're talking about the KLC19 kit. That does make sense that it's required. I'll get hold of one ASAP.
Can anyone confirm exactly what I need? Thanks!!

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:50 pm
by t.renshaw34
Hey mate. The sway bar should have bolted straight in with no other parts required as it is just a bigger and solid version of the stock bar.
Ill give whiteline a call and inbox you with their answer.

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:20 pm
by Dropz
Match up the bar with your old one to ensure its has the same mounting points, before you do anything. This applies for ALL parts on ALL cars, check the replacement part is the same where necessary.

Apart from that, yes. Your bar is wrong. Send it back.

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You need bushing number 27, and you can see here that the bushing inserts into the swaybar mounting point before installation. This would mean an adjustable bar won't fit your car without a different swaybar link to mount to.

Re: Finalise Sway Bar

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:30 am
by SubaruTim
K&T Auto guys: can you please get your stories straight and give me none-conflicting answers.

t.renshaw34 wrote:The sway bar should have bolted straight in with no other parts required...


Dropz wrote:Your bar is wrong. Send it back.


Dropz wrote:This would mean an adjustable bar won't fit your car without a different swaybar link to mount to.

So would one of the whiteline mounts do the trick? Something like the KCL16?