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Hey all,

So I am revisiting this situation that I have. I want different wheels... simple as that.

But the tyres I have at the moment are still pretty much brand new (Pirelli P7s), and if I want to upgrade, I would probably go for a wider tyre or go for a bigger sized rim. So right now, the upgrade will need to be on hold...

So... I thought, why don't I just do it myself? But the thought of sanding and painting them myself sounds like a big job.. I then thought... ahh I'm sure there are shops out there that will do this type of work. I visited Alliance Rim Repair in Malaga and got a quote of about $170 per rim (ex. GST) to get the gutter rash out and paint them satin black, coz they also said my wheels are beyond repair (which I think is BS). Not quite worth it when for another couple of hundred I could go for bigger and different rims. So I am now revisiting the topic of doing them myself again.

I know Champ from these forums was keen to help me, and so I have started this little project yesterday afternoon (yes in the 40 degree Perth heat).. Went to Auto Pro in Innaloo, go seek a guy there called Sam, really helpful guy, have always gone to him since buying my whole stereo from him. He advised the type of sandpaper, paints and gloss for the job. All the equipment cost to about $60 - consists of 2x Satin black paints (in spray cans), 2x Clear coat paint, and 4x sandpaper (2x 150 coarseness, and 2x 270 coarseness (I think).

So far I have sanded back all 4 wheels, all I need to do now is sand them again with the finer paper (higher the number, the finer it is), and then prep and paint them. Yes, the car will be out of commission for the day... so take out the bike or clean those walking shoes!

Here's my progress thus far...

i would like to see how these turn out. I want to do the same thing to my sti wheels.
cant wait to see the end result.

40degC heat... gosh, you sure are keen!

Progress looks good so far

champ wrote:40degC heat... gosh, you sure are keen!
Progress looks good so far

STI-47W wrote:i would like to see how these turn out. I want to do the same thing to my sti wheels.
cant wait to see the end result.

Stay tuned guys.... don't hold your breath... I am hoping to do the job on Thursday when I have my next day off... otherwise it will be next weekend.

I will take photos of the equipment i have so you can probably get the same.

Hahaha Champ, yeah I was just lazing around the house... then said, screw it... I am going to do it!

Hey mate, I did the same thing with my rims. I know its a bit late but my word of advice would be to strip the tyres. I found it really hard to get good coverage on the edge of the rim (right in the corner between the lip and the tyre). Looked the goods, lasted about 3 months then slowly started chiping off. Ended up getting them powder coated about a week ago. Picked up a set of rims of ebay, swapped them and sent mine off to get coated. So Ive got s spair set of rims (same as yours) sitting in the garage if you wanted to use them

Bryzie wrote:Hey mate, I did the same thing with my rims. I know its a bit late but my word of advice would be to strip the tyres. I found it really hard to get good coverage on the edge of the rim (right in the corner between the lip and the tyre). Looked the goods, lasted about 3 months then slowly started chiping off. Ended up getting them powder coated about a week ago. Picked up a set of rims of ebay, swapped them and sent mine off to get coated. So Ive got s spair set of rims (same as yours) sitting in the garage if you wanted to use them

Hey Bryzie,
Yeah good point... I did think of that... but I got no way of getting the tyres on/off. I'm still going to see how I go, thanks for the advice and the offer of the wheels though. Maybe if I botch them up badly I will hit you up! haha!

Haha yeah no worries. I took mine down to bridgestone in osbourne park, by the time I got my last wheel out the back the wags the firs was stripped. $10, in and out in no more than 15mins. Too easy. Good luck anyways budd

Just an update guys....

So... I spent majority of my day off yesterday doing this project. Hope you guys find this helpful. My piece of advice to you all, get a friend to help you, and it would be better if you have access to trolley jacks or multiple car jacks... or prop them up on bricks. haha!

So from where I last left this thread, I had just sanded off the gloss on the rims. I was going to do this whole job on the car... but luckily I didn't, TAKE YOUR WHEELS OFF, even if it means doing them one at a time.

So from where I left off... what you will need to get are the following items from Bunnings or an Automotive store.
- 2 cans of degreaser
- 2 cans of primer
- masking tape
- sandpaper (320) - I don't really understand the grading, so will have to get back to you
- rubber disposable gloves
- newspapers



So I started off pretty good, masking off areas that I didn't want paint on, and carefully washing off all the marks etc from the rim. But because of the time lost from taking the first wheel off, time was against me...



Here are the following processes that I took to get to the result I have got now...
- Once all the remaining gloss on the rim has been sanded off, prop your wheel against a wall or an area with little to no wind and spray your wheels with the degreaser. The one I bought is from Bunnings, and its made by the same mob that make WD-40, this stuff foams up on the wheel and eats through the gunk that builds up at the wheel nut area and the rim itself
- Leave it for about 3-5 minutes and either wash or wipe your wheel with a cloth with water. Don't forget in the wheel nut area
- Once they are dry and clean, you can now prime it. Again, prop up in an area with not much wind and spray it with primer. Beware, this stuff has strong fumes (I almost got high off it!)!



- Once the primer has dried (about 5-10mins), this is the important stage of sanding any spots, blemishes and rough areas on the rim.
- Once you're happy with the result (i.e.. all smooth), prime it again and leave to dry.
- And again sand out any spots and rough areas. If you can also, during this stage do a wet-sanding as well.

And that's where I am at, at the moment. I got extremely tired from jacking up (and down) the car 8 times and removing/putting on the wheels back, my upper thighs are aching very badly!! All in all... the above process took me about 7 hours to complete (and thats including lunch). I know there are more correct/proper ways to do a job like this, but I am happy with my results thus far. Infact, I am thinking of keeping my wheels the 'primer' colour, looks different! Gives my car a slight 'underground look'.

Don't mind my tyres, they are covered in primer residue, due to my lack of time and laziness!



Hope this helps all you guys potentially undertaking this project. Yes, its harder said than done... but its quite fun when you see the results at the end..

looks good so far mate! considered doing the same to my rims but have since realised I'm too lazy.

btw sandpaper grading or 'grit' is measured by how many grains per square cm. so a 320 would have on average 320 bits of grain per cm. a 60grit would have 60 and so on. so the smaller the number the less sand there is (but bigger grains), the more coarse the paper is.

Jack_Keaka wrote:looks good so far mate! considered doing the same to my rims but have since realised I'm too lazy.

btw sandpaper grading or 'grit' is measured by how many grains per square cm. so a 320 would have on average 320 bits of grain per cm. a 60grit would have 60 and so on. so the smaller the number the less sand there is (but bigger grains), the more coarse the paper is.

Haha thanks mate! Yeah I was feeling the same too, but because my rims looked pretty hacked up, I didn't like the look of them. So just bit the bullet and did them! haha

Ohh sweet, thanks for the description of the sandpaper. Ahh sick... so the ones I used then was, 150 (sanding off the gloss), 270 (sanding the first coat of primer) and then 320 for the final sand.

Pity you weren't able to make a couple of quick trips to the tyre shop and get them to remove the tyres & valve stems for you.
It would make the job much easier and I would not expect anywhere to charge you more than $20.

rooby wrote:Pity you weren't able to make a couple of quick trips to the tyre shop and get them to remove the tyres & valve stems for you.
It would make the job much easier and I would not expect anywhere to charge you more than $20.

Yeah I know... I would've been absolutely spent! The closest tyre shop is about 15 minutes drive away! haha! Ahhh, this is not a full spec job, just something to get me by til my tyres wear out!

ive done mine twice now and managed to get it done in a day, my advice to you.... mask up those wheels! paint on tyre is annoying to get off

Looking forward to seeing your work-in-progress later at the meet.

champ wrote:Looking forward to seeing your work-in-progress later at the meet.

Hahaha! Yeah for sure! What time are you planning to get there? I'll most likely park around the other side to avoid embarrassment! Well I'm sure I won't be hard to spot so definitely come and seek me out!