Difference between "King Springs" and "Tein" springs

by **MY-25-GT** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 pm

Going to lower my car about 30 to 35mm and looking at the king springs or tein springs wanted to know apart from one being made in Japan and the other in Australia whats some other differences to help me??

by **moggy** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:03 pm

Tein are better quality + better resale value if you sell your car... :wink:

Bob.

by **garbo41610** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:14 pm

MY-25-GT wrote:Going to lower my car about 30 to 35mm and looking at the king springs or tein springs wanted to know apart from one being made in Japan and the other in Australia whats some other differences to help me??

It's the difference between, say, a Commodore (King Springs) and, oh I don't know, a Liberty :lol:

by **t.renshaw34** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:52 pm

Teins will ride alot better, feel better on the road.
I'm running tein s techs. Comparing s techs to my friends pedders. Pedders are on par or maybe slightly better than kings.
Teins are far better than my friends pedders.

Spring rates would be different too.

You get what you pay for

.

by **JKeep2.5i** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:26 pm

yeah but more to the point why are they better?? is it what they're made from, how they are made, the spring rate, height of spring? or is t just because they are a jap brand, being someone who is very new to modding my car I dont know alot, there has to be a reason to why teins are better than kings? not just they are because I said so

by **bert_** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:31 pm

I think it has to do with every thing you've listed...

Quality/type of the material they've used to produce the spring, the Development and engineering that has gone into it, the spring rates, ride height.. And possibly cause their green and not red LOL

Buy my lovells! Sell them to you cheap.. Promise.

by **Deluded** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:33 pm

JKeep2.5i wrote:yeah but more to the point why are they better?? is it what they're made from, how they are made, the spring rate, height of spring? or is t just because they are a jap brand, being someone who is very new to modding my car I dont know alot, there has to be a reason to why teins are better than kings? not just they are because I said so

Jap product designed for a Jap car .... with sufficient testing ....

by **moggy** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:38 pm

JKeep2.5i wrote:yeah but more to the point why are they better?? is it what they're made from, how they are made, the spring rate, height of spring? or is t just because they are a jap brand, being someone who is very new to modding my car I dont know alot, there has to be a reason to why teins are better than kings? not just they are because I said so

All of the above.....as in most things you get what you pay for especially with car bits. :wink:

Bob.

by **coyote** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:43 pm

I suspect at least 2 of the best 5 handling Liberties on this forum have Kings springs.

Mind you, if you lower a Spec B 35mm it will be shit ... regardless of what you use.

by **kiks** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:30 pm

Ok im just going to call you ALL out right now as being full of shit. Cept coyote that boy is on the money$$.

Better R&D? Jap designed for a jap car?

The Japanese are terrible at this shit, and their roads compared to ours are completely different environments. For the 1% of the time the tiens might be better than something else, the rest of the time they ride like shit.

Now, springs being made better? Please.
Perform better? It performs as a function of its coil width by number and a diametrical coefficient.
Resale? Who would want used springs from some flogged out middle class liberty shitter?

Now, if you want repeatable time after time exact made springs to an advertised spec, Eibach are very good at this. There is a reason you look at a new lambo or pagani etc and find Eibach as the supplier for Ohlins. Motion, JSW and penske all recommend Eibach. Yet still I would not be convinced theyre worth the coin if King can supply the rate and height you want, then they are the best spring. If they can not, they are useless.

That said. I can get eibach and swift cheaper than I can King. If I could get King for the price, I'll stick my hand up for being arguably the best (or in the running) steering liberty around here and it would be on kings springs.

And lets be frank, the difference between any of these is lost in a tyre being a few degrees hotter on one side. Gen4 wagon on factory springs with me at 84kg at the time and full of fuel corner weighted at something like a 7% favour to front right. You cant talk spring quality when the factory gets it so wrong anyway.

Anyway Im rambling. Get what you think you'll be happy with looks wise.

by **cruisn** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:45 pm

I like your posts.

I learn alot or confirm what i already know.

by **kiks** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:00 pm

im drunk and kings springs are yellow. I like yellow.

by **Kekotic** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:09 pm

kiks wrote:im drunk and kings springs are yellow. I like yellow.

I like you a lot

by **04GTLIB** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:12 pm

kiks wrote:im drunk and kings springs are yellow. I like yellow.

by **kiks** » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:23 pm

moggy wrote:
JKeep2.5i wrote:yeah but more to the point why are they better?? is it what they're made from, how they are made, the spring rate, height of spring? or is t just because they are a jap brand, being someone who is very new to modding my car I dont know alot, there has to be a reason to why teins are better than kings? not just they are because I said so

All of the above.....as in most things you get what you pay for especially with car bits.

Bob.

Very true words for very specific occasions.

Shock absorbers? Yes. Springs no.
Tyres? Yes. Wheels no.
Etc. List goes on.

I cant see the value in super duper springs. I can see the value in super duper shocks controlling them though. V8 supercar? Kings springs worth $100 each. Maybe 3-4kg or whatever rates. Ten grand per corner in ohlins/sachs/penske/etc magical fairy unicorn pixie dust shocks though as they're the important bit :p