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Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:59 pm
by Deep Heat
Hey, today my car started to randomly shudder when I use the brakes, does this mean the rotors are rooted?

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:03 pm
by hamish_023
Were you braking hard? Normal driving? Any noises? only when cornering etc...

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:33 pm
by Deep Heat
After some hard braking try to find the source it went away :?:

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:18 pm
by Dropz
Sounds like they're warped, but then you un-warped them by overheating them again haha. :lol:

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:04 pm
by JKeep2.5i
mine seem to shudder only when breaking at higher speeds, so anywhere above 90km/hr my mechanic said its most likely the rotors need to be machined as the pads have been replaced as I had a major service only a month ago, he said it isn't a major problem just a 'do it when you've had enough' ..

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:15 pm
by Dropz
if its only at high speeds it sounds like its just started warping, which can be fixed with a machine. Bad warping can't be fixed by machining it as there's too much variance.

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:11 pm
by jslayz
In m experience, above 90km/hr wobble under brakes means you need the car on a hoist and check your LCAs
In the end this was what was wrong with mine!
Machining rotors helped but putting new LCA's in has completely stopped any wobble.

J

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:33 am
by libz05
hey guys sorry for the noob question but what does shudder mean ?
thanks in advance

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:40 am
by Kekotic
libz05 wrote:hey guys sorry for the noob question but what does shudder mean ?


It means exactly what it sounds like...

Ever shuddered because you are cold? Picture a car doing that while under braking :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_brake#Brake_judder

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:39 am
by JKeep2.5i
for me my steering wheel shudders abit and you can hear/feel some vibration

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:41 pm
by teflon
jslayz wrote:In m experience, above 90km/hr wobble under brakes means you need the car on a hoist and check your LCAs
In the end this was what was wrong with mine!
Machining rotors helped but putting new LCA's in has completely stopped any wobble.

J


Same here. Thought it was my rotors but it was the LCAs... Only happened when braking above 80km.

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:59 pm
by JKeep2.5i
jslayz wrote:In m experience, above 90km/hr wobble under brakes means you need the car on a hoist and check your LCAs
In the end this was what was wrong with mine!
Machining rotors helped but putting new LCA's in has completely stopped any wobble.

J


This could be my problem right there, I don't know alot but what are LCA's??

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:42 pm
by Deep Heat
JKeep2.5i wrote:This could be my problem right there, I don't know alot but what are LCA's??


LCA= Lower control arm

Did you guys need to change the whole LCA or just the bushing?

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:00 pm
by teflon
Arm was fine so just the bushes which I had replaced with the j speed/PhatGT ones.

Re: Braking causes shudder

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:39 pm
by seanmau5
Twinkle wrote:
JKeep2.5i wrote:This could be my problem right there, I don't know alot but what are LCA's??


LCA= Lower control arm

Did you guys need to change the whole LCA or just the bushing?


cruisn has alloy LCAs for sale.. Free plug :)