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modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:02 pm
by tavnam
hi guys just wonder how badly it will thru my STOCK TUNE OUT if.
i add a custom CAI, Custom Turbo Back Exhaust, Machine out the throttle body n wind the bosst up 2 roughly 12psi??? i will eventually get it flashed or install a Haltech. i dont want if's n mayb's i need a tried n tested answer. thanks guys.
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:30 pm
by PHAT GT
wind the bosst up 2 roughly 12psi???
That would be winding down the boost
you will be 100% trouble free with out tuning with those mods if done right
Michael
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:33 pm
by norbs
Ok I'll bite.
Assuming you are for real, with those lists of mods I'd suggest yes it is necessary. If nothing else to reap the benefits of the mods. You can of course drive with light throttle to get you to a tuner.
But what do you mean by 12PSI?? I'd suggest you are running closer to 15PSI stock. Or did I just get pwned

Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:35 pm
by coyote
tavnam wrote:i dont want if's n mayb's i need a tried n tested answer.
Then tell us:
the specs of the CAI, including pipe diameter before and after the AFM
before and after flow rates of the TB
what on earth you are doing with the boost (they are 15psi peak, tapering back to 12 ... stock)
Preferably in English this time.
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:57 pm
by PHAT GT
[quote="norbs"]Ok I'll bite.
Assuming you are for real, with those lists of mods I'd suggest yes it is necessary. If nothing else to reap the benefits of the mods. You can of course drive with light throttle to get you to a tuner.
norbs are you sure you dont work for MRT

Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:54 am
by norbs
Hahaha Phat. I've just read what I wrote and yes, does sound like something MRT would say. "Yes, a panel air filter will require you to have an ECUDET tune. Just to be safe".
So whilst I've got your attention, any updates on that super secret intercooler??
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:22 pm
by SUB4RU
I just had my tuned yesterday @ chiptorque.
Mods:
Turbo back exhaust (Phat GT dump, custom centre, HiTech quads)
Apexi CAI
Hyperflow TMIC
Before the tune made 159kw atw.
After the tune...188.8kw atw.
They said you can drive it without a tune but depends on your CAI as it can muck up ur air fuel mixtures with the wrong one. They were impressed with the Apexi CAI. Hope this helps.
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:32 pm
by Arith
SUB4RU wrote:Before the tune made 159kw atw.
After the tune...188.8kw atw.
Wow, those are good numbers for those mods. Good work!
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:39 pm
by SUB4RU
Yeah, I was happy with them. They had no other cars on so spent a few extra hours on it....and it was done in 4th gear, I am pretty sure most people do 5th gear runs with the 6speed?
Re: modifaction with out flash tuning?

Posted:
Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:44 pm
by smythie
depends on the tuner. Some use 4th, some use 5th. Doesn't make a noticeable difference to the power delivered at the treads