no probs Gumby, i appreciate the help..
OF COURSE i searched around prior to posting, but like gumby mentioned, i could only find advice on pre-facelift models, and i have heard of others having this issue, so thought i would start a thread on it..
thanks for the advice Jim, i got an appointment with denlo subaru tomorrow morning, it will be interesting to see what the issue is since a couple of us can relate...
i will be sure to let you guys know..
anyone know how i can access the diag connector to get the error code being logged?