Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:59 pmshav wrote: poofteeth
I think this. This is the most important thing to remember.
I think this. This is the most important thing to remember.
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:59 pmI think this. This is the most important thing to remember.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:23 pmGONEWALKABOUT wrote:shav wrote: poofteeth
I think this. This is the most important thing to remember.
My guess is unless you are pushing really big power (250kwatw+), there is little to gain.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:30 pmI think he's making fun of the fact you said "poof teeth" instead of "poofteenth".
But youd be surprised of the gains headers give... it's not a "poofteenth"... it's up to 15wkw, which is about the same gain as upgrading to a VF52.
But youd be surprised of the gains headers give... it's not a "poofteenth"... it's up to 15wkw, which is about the same gain as upgrading to a VF52.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:24 pmshav wrote:I cannot add anything to this thread other than I am intrigued and fascinated with the science behind the 2 designs of headers.
I have no interest in changing my UEL headers. I love the sound. Plus im not looking for every poofteeth of a kw. But to read of the differences and learning how best they operate is very educational.
Thanks guys
I'm also not interested in changing from UEL headers, but I am very interested to know the difference that aftermarket UEL would make compared to stock UEL (at under 200atwkw). In saying that, if its just a slight 5% or so gain at top end it doesn't seem worth the expense
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:43 pmyou cant forget that some people actually prefer the EL sound. In some cases it does actually sound pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoEoVyy4PW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoEoVyy4PW4
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:51 pmBare in mind that 5% of 200kw is 10kw. That's about $90/kw if you get ceramic coated. That's pretty standard cost for liberty's.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:01 pmhahaha. poof teeth. Yeah you guys know what I meant.
The sound of the EL headers isnt bad. But I still prefer the more prominent boxer note. That's just me, and Im the type of person to be happy with 180kwatw from the stock turbo.
The sound of the EL headers isnt bad. But I still prefer the more prominent boxer note. That's just me, and Im the type of person to be happy with 180kwatw from the stock turbo.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:46 pmpeadya100 wrote:I think he's making fun of the fact you said "poof teeth" instead of "poofteenth".
But youd be surprised of the gains headers give... it's not a "poofteenth"... it's up to 15wkw, which is about the same gain as upgrading to a VF52.
Look forward Adam to see the results but not in a graph more the drivability and difference you feel in the various rev ranges.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:32 pmIt seems like a few people are waiting for a headers review. I'll give an honest review after the tune. However I worry it might not be accurate with the new cooler and CAI adding to the result, but I'll do my best 
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:49 pmpeadya100 wrote:It seems like a few people are waiting for a headers review. I'll give an honest review after the tune. However I worry it might not be accurate with the new cooler and CAI adding to the result, but I'll do my best
more power than before is always a bonus. The review will always be positive with an upgrade over stock regardless of what it is haha, within reason of course.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:52 pmI meant more of a bum dyno review on where the improvements are in what rev range. I know the CAI adds to peak power, so if I feel anything in the mid range it's likely the headers.
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:56 pmpeadya100 wrote:I meant more of a bum dyno review on where the improvements are in what rev range. I know the CAI adds to peak power, so if I feel anything in the mid range it's likely the headers.
We all wait Adam good things ... Good things
Re: UEL vs EL Headers
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:24 amTwinscroll noise > UEL or EL