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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby GONEWALKABOUT » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:59 pm

shav wrote: poofteeth


I think this. This is the most important thing to remember.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby shav » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:23 pm

GONEWALKABOUT wrote:
shav wrote: poofteeth


I think this. This is the most important thing to remember.


My guess is unless you are pushing really big power (250kwatw+), there is little to gain.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby peadya100 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:30 pm

I think he's making fun of the fact you said "poof teeth" instead of "poofteenth".

But youd be surprised of the gains headers give... it's not a "poofteenth"... it's up to 15wkw, which is about the same gain as upgrading to a VF52.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby ferret89 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:24 pm

shav wrote:I cannot add anything to this thread other than I am intrigued and fascinated with the science behind the 2 designs of headers.

I have no interest in changing my UEL headers. I love the sound. Plus im not looking for every poofteeth of a kw. But to read of the differences and learning how best they operate is very educational.

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I'm also not interested in changing from UEL headers, but I am very interested to know the difference that aftermarket UEL would make compared to stock UEL (at under 200atwkw). In saying that, if its just a slight 5% or so gain at top end it doesn't seem worth the expense
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby GONEWALKABOUT » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:43 pm

you cant forget that some people actually prefer the EL sound. In some cases it does actually sound pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoEoVyy4PW4


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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby peadya100 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Bare in mind that 5% of 200kw is 10kw. That's about $90/kw if you get ceramic coated. That's pretty standard cost for liberty's.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby shav » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:01 pm

hahaha. poof teeth. Yeah you guys know what I meant.

The sound of the EL headers isnt bad. But I still prefer the more prominent boxer note. That's just me, and Im the type of person to be happy with 180kwatw from the stock turbo.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby THE SpecB » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:46 pm

peadya100 wrote:I think he's making fun of the fact you said "poof teeth" instead of "poofteenth".

But youd be surprised of the gains headers give... it's not a "poofteenth"... it's up to 15wkw, which is about the same gain as upgrading to a VF52.


Look forward Adam to see the results but not in a graph more the drivability and difference you feel in the various rev ranges.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby peadya100 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:32 pm

It seems like a few people are waiting for a headers review. I'll give an honest review after the tune. However I worry it might not be accurate with the new cooler and CAI adding to the result, but I'll do my best :good:
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby GONEWALKABOUT » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:49 pm

peadya100 wrote:It seems like a few people are waiting for a headers review. I'll give an honest review after the tune. However I worry it might not be accurate with the new cooler and CAI adding to the result, but I'll do my best :good:


more power than before is always a bonus. The review will always be positive with an upgrade over stock regardless of what it is haha, within reason of course.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby peadya100 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:52 pm

I meant more of a bum dyno review on where the improvements are in what rev range. I know the CAI adds to peak power, so if I feel anything in the mid range it's likely the headers.
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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby THE SpecB » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:56 pm

peadya100 wrote:I meant more of a bum dyno review on where the improvements are in what rev range. I know the CAI adds to peak power, so if I feel anything in the mid range it's likely the headers.



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Re: UEL vs EL Headers

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:24 am

Twinscroll noise > UEL or EL
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