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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:40 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:I've been keeping track on a thread on wrx club ;)
Its all fairly easy once you know how.
It does display on the Vent Boost Gauge but is currently displaying about 1 afr too lean.
I can fix that with a pot or diode or upgrade to the most current VBG1 which is programmable.

I'll have the failsafe relay wired in very soon too.
Its taken me ages to do, due to insisting on nutting out most of the install myself.

I reckon this and a G4 knocklink is a great combo for saving your engine from events that the ECU's built in failsafes cannot catch.


Ahh I'll have to hunt down the thread.

Thanks for the information, I think i'll have to pick up the gauges (and i'll have to look in to the G4 Knocklink).

Do I remember reading you were planning to wire the failsafe to cut boost?
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby Manaz » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:52 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:I've been keeping track on a thread on wrx club ;)
Its all fairly easy once you know how.
It does display on the Vent Boost Gauge but is currently displaying about 1 afr too lean.
I can fix that with a pot or diode or upgrade to the most current VBG1 which is programmable.

I'll have the failsafe relay wired in very soon too.
Its taken me ages to do, due to insisting on nutting out most of the install myself.

I reckon this and a G4 knocklink is a great combo for saving your engine from events that the ECU's built in failsafes cannot catch.


Good to hear. I've got the VBG1, an aux connector harness, the programming cable and the required tubing coming. Just need to go find a wrecker with an appropriate vent, and then choose which AFM meter I'll use.

That KnockLink G4 looks interesting. Have you gotten yourself one? I see they say it can use either the built-in knock sensor as a source, or an external sensor. USD$290 for the knocklink and a sensor doesn't seem terrible...
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:02 am

BlackSTI wrote:Do I remember reading you were planning to wire the failsafe to cut boost?


This bit is quite easy, just intercept 1 wire to the boost control solenoid and open that circuit with a normally closed relay that's triggered by the AEM failsafe wire. Sounds complex but its easy as. This can be done in the engine bay or where the loom runs into the ECU.
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:08 am

Manaz wrote: I see they say it can use either the built-in knock sensor as a source, or an external sensor. USD$290 for the knocklink and a sensor doesn't seem terrible...


From research, the install method on a Subaru is to use a stock type (or compatible) sensor mounted on a bolt under a bracket adjacent the stock sensor on the block in between the inlet mani and the tmic.
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:16 pm

AEM failsafe ordered. Waiting for the vent gauge to come back in to stock now.

Thanks for the advice mate!
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:24 pm

Cool!
Got a bung in your dump already?
A boost hose tee to send boost to the Aem 30-4900 and the vbg1.
Fuse tap.
Distribution block.
NC relay.
Red and black wire, conduit, heat shrink etc :)
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:33 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:Cool!
Got a bung in your dump already?
A boost hose tee to send boost to the Aem 30-4900 and the vbg1.
Fuse tap.
Distribution block.
NC relay.
Red and black wire, conduit, heat shrink etc :)


I believe I already have a bung (still at the mechanics... so no checking for now)

Thanks for the other list.

Lets pretend its amateur hour.... what distribution block / nc relay?
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:56 pm

I used a terminal strip with one side linked to distribute power and ground. Pics soon.
Normally Closed relay 5 pin type surface mount.
Mini fuse taps from Selbys on eBay.

And an obdII extension cable pref with right angle plug...
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:51 am

bigBADbenny wrote:I used a terminal strip with one side linked to distribute power and ground. Pics soon.
Normally Closed relay 5 pin type surface mount.
Mini fuse taps from Selbys on eBay.

And an obdII extension cable pref with right angle plug...


Finally got the car back yesterday, seems to feel great now. Also received the gauge in the post yesterday but haven't had a chance to look at it yet.

Looks like I should have everything I need except the NC relay, although I probably won't be installing it until next weekend.

Also posted up a learning view:
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:11 pm

As promised some pics of the birds nest of wiring supporting the AEM 30-4900 and the VBG1...
I know it looks like a shocking mess but this is actually wiring revision 2 :shock:

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This is a basic terminal block for 12V (brown loops) and ground (blue loops) distribution. All wire tips are soldered and really torqued as much as possble...
This is loosely ziptied above the fusebox. 12V is supplied from a fuse tap (heavier gauge red wire) and ground (heavier gauge black wire) is an adjacent bolt.

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This is the recommended fuse to tap for power, apparently this one gets constant power on key-on, which is necessary for the VBG1 to properly self-calibrate with an atmosperic pressure sample on startup. Very tight fit for that fuse tap, so gently pull the whole assy to the left to clear the bonnet latch. There is a second fuse tap on the cabin fuse box, for gauge illumination, but iirc this really requires a voltage inverter circuit to properly work with Subaru's dimming strategy.

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This is where the AEM lives, tucked up in next to the fuse box, the VBG1 control box is in there too, upside down, just to the right in a little recess. Its just possible to see the blue Tee that connects both gauges to the boost hose coming from the engine bay via the firewall bung.

So 12V power and ground occupies one end of the terminal strip, then a section for illumination (not used currently) and then the last terminal is for sharing the AEM's 0-5v AFR output which is split on the last terminal, one side goes to the VBG1 AFR input, the other goes to a male 2.5mm plug which can either be put directly into the logging socket on the Tactrix for laptop logging with AFR with RomRaider, or plugged into a female socket which runs to wire #8 (from memory) of an OBDII extension cable, which is used for standalone logging with AFR to the mSD card in the Tactrix.
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby garthos » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:22 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:As promised some pics of the birds nest of wiring supporting the AEM 30-4900 and the VBG1...
I know it looks like a shocking mess but this is actually wiring revision 2 :shock:


you're such a tease Benny....
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby bigBADbenny » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:29 pm

had to swap to the laptop as mobile flickr refused to play ;) ^^
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:28 pm

Thanks for all the info and photos benny, will help out heaps!


So... tonight I started up the car after it had sat for 48 hours... lots of steam out of the exhaust (not a cool evening) ... concerned me, looked in to the coolant overflow bottle... saw several bubbles rise.... does this mean what I think it does... :evil:
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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:29 pm

BlackSTI wrote:Thanks for all the info and photos benny, will help out heaps!


So... tonight I started up the car after it had sat for 48 hours... lots of steam out of the exhaust (not a cool evening) ... concerned me, looked in to the coolant overflow bottle... saw several bubbles rise.... does this mean what I think it does... :evil:


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Re: Head gasket - Updated

Postby BlackSTI » Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:59 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:Depressing news!


Not sure how this would happen within a week...

(BTW I sent you an email :wink: )
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