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How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:46 pm
by edd13k
Hi All,
Looking to join the club.
Never really owned a car worth going on forums for - always had either a cheap and nasty or a work car.
Hopefully will purchase a MY08 Liberty TB STI soon.
Are 70,000-80,000km's too many?
Thanks all. (will post an intro once I get a Subaru)
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:04 pm
by Kekotic
To me, 100,000km is too many.
I bought my car on 55,000, have done 15,000 in 1 year 2 months. Plan on handballing it off just before it gets to 100,000.
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:10 pm
by jacks-GTB
hey, pre welcome.....
If its had its full service history & just do and over all checks, then you'll be fine... subaru have a strong engine, it will keep going forever..
i bought my spec b with 80,000 on the clock & it's beautiful....even though i am doing a rebuild...!! for performance reasons...
jack
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:35 pm
by subnub
Mine has ~72500km on it and still feels as strong as new. As with most cars it comes down more to how it's been looked after than the raw km figure on the dash.
Also don't forget that there are different types of driving, 10,000 city kays is completely different to 10,000 country kays where it's able to just cruise along with bugger-all wear and tear.
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:08 pm
by Jaz
chaotic2050 wrote:To me, 100,000km is too many.
I bought my car on 55,000, have done 15,000 in 1 year 2 months. Plan on handballing it off just before it gets to 100,000.
I would suggest this is VERY conservative. I had a 92 RS turbo that had a whole host of mods including extra boost, and was still running fine, using less oil than a modern 3.0L when I upgraded the engine at ~250 000km. It had creaks and groans in it at that stage, but unless you're fussy, which Kieren is (no offence mate) I think anything less than 200 000 is likely to see trouble free motoring, with some obvious exceptions, and would be entirely dependent on how it was treated and serviced.
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:50 pm
by edd13k
Thanks for all your responses.
I do feel alot better about Subaru engines. Plus the original owner of the car I am looking at has taken really good care of the Liberty (also has the log books to prove it).
Hopefully, I'll be driving around in it soon.
Thanks again!
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:54 pm
by Kekotic
Jaz wrote:but unless you're fussy, which Kieren is (no offence mate)
I didn't read the thread properly.
I thought it was asking how long you would keep a car!
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:06 pm
by mrgnluke
My Outback currently has 194,000 kms on it but drives like it's got 100k less.
Currently for sale but I think people do get scared off by the high kays. As already mentioned, do all the regular checks and you'll be fine. When looked after, Suby's will just keep on going!
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:11 pm
by Dropz
When buying a later model car I think 150,000kms is the top end to look at, as for how long I would keep a car, why would it matter. Until things start to go wrong with it, then keep it.
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:16 pm
by seanmau5
Think about the car you're buying mate - it's an STI Liberty - obviously the previous owner was someone interested in motoring & cars and is more than likely going to nurture it.. If it was a Suzuki Swift that Sharon round the corner owned then yea you could be concerned about 150k kms & whether the car was looked after or not. A Liberty STI is a very specific choice of car that not any old person would buy..
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:32 am
by cruisn
chaotic2050 wrote:To me, 100,000km is too many.
I bought my car on 55,000, have done 15,000 in 1 year 2 months. Plan on handballing it off just before it gets to 100,000.
Id disagree.
If you buy a car from a fastidious owner with over 100k on it whos maintained it to a high level, then it'd be a great car.
If you bought a car that 50k on it that the owner didnt care about and was sloppy with servicing intervals, then Id steer clear.
Kilometers to an extent are irrelevant to an extent. It all depends on how the cars been maintained.
Re: How many K's are too many?

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Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:58 am
by Jim
Agree wholeheartedly with Mark.
My car is a perfect example of one with a fastidious previous owner, i bought it with 115,000km on the clock, still feels like it just rolled off the factory floor. One weeeeny scratch on the side mirror and the rest is perfect. Runs like a dream as it has been serviced rigerously by the previous owner and myself. People are too quick ti dismiss cars with higher kays, its a fact of life and inevidible. Not to mention it can make up to $10,000 difference on the selling price of a car.
For example, theres currently an MY08 GTb i know of sale for less than $20k because it has nearly 200,000 on it. So what? If it has been serviced religiously and the body looked after, hell i would have snapped it up in a second and saved $8k over what i paid for mine.
If anything, i would buy a GT with slightly more than 100,000km on it due to the fact that the major service would have been done, which in turn could save you over $1k. Of course if your able to do all mechanical work yourself, such as i do myself, km's on the car dont really matter. I like to think i saved myself up to $5k because i wasn't fussy with Km's. Turned out i ended up with a total gem of a car which still feels brand new (when its clean lol)
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:22 pm
by Jaz
Jim wrote:If anything, i would buy a GT with slightly more than 100,000km on it due to the fact that the major service would have been done, which in turn could save you over $1k. Of course if your able to do all mechanical work yourself, such as i do myself, km's on the car dont really matter. I like to think i saved myself up to $5k because i wasn't fussy with Km's. Turned out i ended up with a total gem of a car which still feels brand new (when its clean lol)
If you have a good look of the modern GT service schedule it's now spread over the 100k and 125K now with the fluids being done in one and the timing belt in the other. So if you want to avoid the services that are around $1k in value each at a dealer, but something with 130k on it.
Re: How many K's are too many?

Posted:
Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:45 am
by Dropz
They changed those service schedules in 2006 onwards. So just buy newer cars

Re: How many K's are too many?

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:09 am
by edd13k
I won't be sticking with the service manual suggestions anyway.
If I do end up getting the car (with 70,000+kms on it) I plan to get it serviced every 5-10,000kms.
I do hear Subaru engines are strong, which makes me feel better about spending the money.