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Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:38 pm
by bigBADbenny
Great link!
I love what outfront are doing for the Subaru community :)
Closed deck blocks, 1/2" head studs and moar!

Yeah I have new avcs gears awaiting install when the appropriate time arrives...

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:11 pm
by cynner
Hm, that link showing the AVCS gears not being aligned properly... why would replacing the OCV's temporarily fix that? (or are these two separate issues?)

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:57 pm
by bigBADbenny
The cam gears can get stuck due to debris in the oil, sluding due to improper OCI's or assembly/ installation. The symptoms are different to OCV's with the cam gear being either non operational or getting stuck once actuated.

OCV malfunction is exhibited by lag and oscillation to one side.

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:19 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
Here is another one!

Note the symptoms are pretty obvious in this one

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:24 am
by Boostaddict
So does that mean ^^^^ a new AVCS cam gear is required or just the ocv valve things??

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:49 am
by bigBADbenny
Oscillation = new OCV's.
Sticking = new or reco (outfront) avcs cam gears.

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:46 am
by Boostaddict
bigBADbenny wrote:Oscillation = new OCV's.
Sticking = new or reco (outfront) avcs cam gears.



Awesome. Yeh Matt just told me that.

Gunna get it swapped over next tuesday and hopfully it fixes my woefull down low light throttle burping.

AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:30 pm
by Sean82
Found the reason for my lumpy (shithouse) idle: right intake cam is at 40-55* on idle while the left is 0*
Uh oh... :(

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:07 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
Sean82 wrote:Found the reason for my lumpy (shithouse) idle: right intake cam is at 40-55* on idle while the left is 0*
Uh oh... :(


Remove the filter basket from from banjo bolts and fixed

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:30 pm
by alexeiwoody
KiDo_Tuning wrote:
Sean82 wrote:Found the reason for my lumpy (shithouse) idle: right intake cam is at 40-55* on idle while the left is 0*
Uh oh... :(


Remove the filter basket from from banjo bolts and fixed


Yeah autos don't get the issue :)

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:16 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
alexeiwoody wrote:
KiDo_Tuning wrote:
Sean82 wrote:Found the reason for my lumpy (shithouse) idle: right intake cam is at 40-55* on idle while the left is 0*
Uh oh... :(


Remove the filter basket from from banjo bolts and fixed


Yeah autos don't get the issue :)


03-06 get the issue but as above, completely static. t.renshaw had his fail on the dyno, plucked out the bac=sket and threw it away

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:25 pm
by alexeiwoody
Haha yes Matt I was agreeing with you, and saying autos don't get the SERIOUS issue. A dirty basket is definitely not as expensive to fix as manuals.

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:40 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
alexeiwoody wrote:Haha yes Matt I was agreeing with you, and saying autos don't get the SERIOUS issue. A dirty basket is definitely not as expensive to fix as manuals.


I was clarifying the 'difference' in the scenarios :) Even the 03-06 5MT gets it :)

2L gets 0 degrees, while 2.5 6MT gets oscialltions off target

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:09 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
3 more victims of the AVCS club

LorrenK from this forum plus an 07 FXT and an 07 WRX. All had build dates within 4 months of each other. I flat refused to tune the 07 WRX as it was the worst one yet... 26 degrees variation off target :shock:

Re: AVCS VVT angle out of sync diagnosis MY07 GT B

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:36 pm
by LorrenK
Yup, was about to post this. It was well disguised under the MRT tune, but very obvious once properly tuned, mostly on taking off from standstill where it would bog, and then take off suddenly once it got some revs and momentum. Less noticeable but more annoying was it would surge and hunt when under cruise control on the freeway.
Bought a replacement set from celtic, and had them put in at subaru (ouch! very exxy, but fleet card paid for it and they were able to do it the day after I called and before the long weekend). Made a huge difference to how the car felt immediately.