Overheating issue [updated: pictures]

[bass_straitener]

This thread and the other one with illestlib had me thinking about my car as i have some intermittent bubbling in the dash.

Originally i found the top radiator hose was leaking... New one with new clamps, top and bottom and a full flush and all
Bubbles taken out.

Buuuuttt i heard the bloody bubbling again the other day after a little squirt. !!

So i gave it a few squirts after dropping the kids off to school. Got out and the bloody over flow fluid was bubbling!! CRAP!!

Had a quick look under the oil filler and there was the slightest of slight milkyness .

Im not getting any spike in temp tho.....

Ssssoooo i have a leak.... Just have to find it!!

NEVER thought these Libs would have dramas like this with their cooling systems!

You have the classic start of a head gasket issue. Get it checked and prepare for the worst, no matter what the result.

Whilst I had my Liberty the effort I went through to manage and tweak my tune to achieve a satisfactory result was insane.

It's one of the reasons I didn't want to own it any longer.

Whilst the tune was perfectly fine in the end, and I had no issues, the paranoia, the effort in monitoring, the extra gauges etc, was too much for a guy with a young family.

You almost have to become a tuner to save these cars from stuffing up was my conclusion.

[Boostaddict]

when my head lifted, my temps never went up, had the cooling system pressure tested...it passed...had my top and end tank replaced and rad flushed, but in the end still had bubbling, loosing and overflowing of coolant and the milky froth effect....

so just cause you don't have temps rising doesn't mean your out of the woods....

good luck


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Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!!!

I dont want to hear that man....!!!

I only started having these issues after a tow bar from a commonwhore jumped into the front of my car and radiator ( ie i rear ended someone !!) which buckled the radiator.

Does a lifted head give odd issues ?? Like surging or anything!!

[Boostaddict]

This thread and the other one with illestlib had me thinking about my car as i have some intermittent bubbling in the dash.

Originally i found the top radiator hose was leaking... New one with new clamps, top and bottom and a full flush and all
Bubbles taken out.

Buuuuttt i heard the bloody bubbling again the other day after a little squirt. !!

So i gave it a few squirts after dropping the kids off to school. Got out and the bloody over flow fluid was bubbling!! CRAP!!

Had a quick look under the oil filler and there was the slightest of slight milkyness .

Im not getting any spike in temp tho.....

Ssssoooo i have a leak.... Just have to find it!!

NEVER thought these Libs would have dramas like this with their cooling systems!

You have the classic start of a head gasket issue. Get it checked and prepare for the worst, no matter what the result.

Whilst I had my Liberty the effort I went through to manage and tweak my tune to achieve a satisfactory result was insane.

It's one of the reasons I didn't want to own it any longer.

Whilst the tune was perfectly fine in the end, and I had no issues, the paranoia, the effort in monitoring, the extra gauges etc, was too much for a guy with a young family.

You almost have to become a tuner to save these cars from stuffing up was my conclusion.

Oooohhh crap!!

This is NOT what i wanted to hear.!!

Im taking it down to a mechanic that i trust on Thursday. I have already spoken to him and he said that it may not be the head gasket and may just be a leak in a hose.!!

Soooo we shall see.

Come on guys, POSITIVE thoughts...... Dans car is ok.!!

[jaydece]

mine were

1/ feels like it's surging - hesitating
2/ under powered
3/ could smell like a sweet - sugary


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[Boostaddict]

mine were

1/ feels like it's surging - hesitating
2/ under powered
3/ could smell like a sweet - sugary


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So my car surges and i keep getting that bloody CEL PO171 ( left bank running lean ) !!

Could it be related?? Who the fuck knows!!

[TomTom]

I hope it's an easy and cheap fix Daniel. Sounds like a recent curse has been hitting these ones... Dropping mine off tomorrow, I'll be having a good chat to the mechanic and will report back in with whats going on. Funny thing is my reservoir went back down to normal levels today, although I didn't drive it for long it was looking ok. Reading some other forums and all around the intewebz talking about a design flaw in the Subaru head gaskets (probably already known by most here), definitely will be considering something like Cosworth/Cometic.

Here are some pics of my dirty ass overflow & bubbling
http://imgur.com/gYGRJJ3,eegXexp#0

[jaydece]

I had cometic head gaskets and from what I learned and experienced not as good as oem and or cosworth


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[Boostaddict]

I hope it's an easy and cheap fix Daniel. Sounds like a recent curse has been hitting these ones... Dropping mine off tomorrow, I'll be having a good chat to the mechanic and will report back in with whats going on. Funny thing is my reservoir went back down to normal levels today, although I didn't drive it for long it was looking ok. Reading some other forums and all around the intewebz talking about a design flaw in the Subaru head gaskets (probably already known by most here), definitely will be considering something like Cosworth/Cometic.

Here are some pics of my dirty ass overflow & bubbling
http://imgur.com/gYGRJJ3,eegXexp#0

Crap those pics looks very similar to mine...!! Fuck I don't want a head gasket ATM ..... Wanna buy a bigger house and this was not supposed to happen for another 3 years..!!! Mine will be ok, it's just a hose, it's just a hose.

Where are you taking your car to Tom??

[Manaz]

Reading some other forums and all around the intewebz talking about a design flaw in the Subaru head gaskets (probably already known by most here), definitely will be considering something like Cosworth/Cometic.

For the price, go with the Cosworth version. Make sure you grab the thinnest one they do (it's actually very slightly thicker than the stock head gasket) - their thicker ones are designed for reducing static compression ratios, and that's something you'd want to be doing as part of a fullly planned build, not just a stock replacement.

Whilst you're at it, I'd suggest you replace the head studs too with something better than the stock ones. Again Cosworth do some stuff here (they have two versions - unless you're planning on running 30psi, the cheaper version they do would be more than enough I suspect).

[senator]

Reading some other forums and all around the intewebz talking about a design flaw in the Subaru head gaskets (probably already known by most here), definitely will be considering something like Cosworth/Cometic.

For the price, go with the Cosworth version. Make sure you grab the thinnest one they do (it's actually very slightly thicker than the stock head gasket) - their thicker ones are designed for reducing static compression ratios, and that's something you'd want to be doing as part of a fullly planned build, not just a stock replacement.

Whilst you're at it, I'd suggest you replace the head studs too with something better than the stock ones. Again Cosworth do some stuff here (they have two versions - unless you're planning on running 30psi, the cheaper version they do would be more than enough I suspect).

Cosworth 0.78 is the best choice, considering the heads will be serviced and skimmed to ensure a flat surface.

The Cosy head gasket has a thicker metallic seat which provides are better seal where it’s needed.

[senator]

Crap those pics looks very similar to mine...!! Fuck I don't want a head gasket ATM ..... Wanna buy a bigger house and this was not supposed to happen for another 3 years..!!! Mine will be ok, it's just a hose, it's just a hose.

Where are you taking your car to Tom??

Dan

Sorry to be frank, but be realistic, no burst hoses will expose oil to coolant…… the only area where oil and coolant can come into contact is the heads if the gasket is damaged.

Any milky residue is the result of oil emulsifying with the coolant or vice versa.

$3-4k would cover the fix which would include serviced, gasket kit, head studs, timing belt, water pump, pulley and thermostat.

[dr20t]

Reading some other forums and all around the intewebz talking about a design flaw in the Subaru head gaskets (probably already known by most here), definitely will be considering something like Cosworth/Cometic.

For the price, go with the Cosworth version. Make sure you grab the thinnest one they do (it's actually very slightly thicker than the stock head gasket) - their thicker ones are designed for reducing static compression ratios, and that's something you'd want to be doing as part of a fullly planned build, not just a stock replacement.

Whilst you're at it, I'd suggest you replace the head studs too with something better than the stock ones. Again Cosworth do some stuff here (they have two versions - unless you're planning on running 30psi, the cheaper version they do would be more than enough I suspect).

Cosworth parts are overpriced rubbish except for their headgaskets

Just grab a set of arp 2000 head studs if you're not planning on running more than 20psi of boost

The first thing I would check once the engine is back together and BEFORE you drive it - is the tune.

Figure out why its done a headgasket first before exposing your reconditioned engine back to the original tune which is of unknown quality.

[owen]

I can supply the ARP head studs (part # ARP2604701) for $320 inc gst if anybody is interested. VIC only though lol

(Not sure how good that price is, it's the price I can get them for thru work)

[BlackSTI]

The first thing I would check once the engine is back together and BEFORE you drive it - is the tune.

Oh god you've scared me now, I've had mine back since Friday and have been logging since (I havn't seen anything odd, but I know very little), I think I will revert back to a stock tune tonight and start getting kido to whip something up (Hopefully before any damage is done, although I suspect mine did it due to a heat issue..).

Now that there have been a few cases of HGs going, does this seem to be only occurring a lot in the factory fitted HGs?

[senator]

The first thing I would check once the engine is back together and BEFORE you drive it - is the tune.

Oh god you've scared me now, I've had mine back since Friday and have been logging since (I havn't seen anything odd, but I know very little), I think I will revert back to a stock tune tonight and start getting kido to whip something up (Hopefully before any damage is done, although I suspect mine did it due to a heat issue..).

Now that there have been a few cases of HGs going, does this seem to be only occurring a lot in the factory fitted HGs?

if you went with afertmarket head studs and gasket you should be fine.