AVO vs Perrin silicon turbo pipe (whats better)

[lunchboxsti]

I have been reading peoples post and researching the two turbo inlet pipes. Some of the info i have i can not confirmed so i would like to get the general opinions off those who have one or the other.

What i know..

-i have the AVO pipe but found that the inlet end is to big to put the cover back on without trimming some away.
-The avo was reallt tight and rubs in a couple of areas.
-one of the hoses has to be run around the intake (if you have a TMIC) and is a bit untidy.

What iv been told and need to confirm..
-the first perrin pipe was not to good and they did a new model that was a lot better?
-the placement of the connectores are better placed then the AVO?
-it is smaller then the AVO?

What i would also like to know...
-does the perrrin fit under the engine cover?
-does the perrin rub anywhere?
-The perrins rear connector is on the top and behind the bov return. is this better? does it stop the untidy running of the hose around the intake on the AVO pipe?

Below are the pictures of the pipes in question.

Thanks in advance for the help

AVO

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Perrin

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[wally09]

I have the Perrin. No rub marks that I can see. Relatively easy installation apart from the bov return, need to really squeeze your hand to get it on under the manifold. I also have the perrin tmic and no rubbing.

One thing to check when you take it out of the box is to cut any loose flappy silicone on the inside, or it will make a strange induction flapping noise.

Minimal gains but it has to be better than the super ribbed oem

*edit*
yes it fits under the engine cover easy. Once fitted it looks pretty tidy. You can only see the front part.

One thing I have noticed is, that if it gets hot, it gets a bit squishy where there are no reinforcement rings.

[lunchboxsti]

One thing I have noticed is, that if it gets hot, it gets a bit squishy where there are no reinforcement rings.

AVO seems to be the same.

Are there any hoses that have to run diffrently to the factory route?

[wally09]

The only one that's different is that top spigot. Can't remember what it is. but from factory it has a formed 90 degree bend in it, this must be cut off so it can fit. Apart from that everything else fits up the same I'm pretty sure

[Jim]

Was interested in installing these aswell.

Does the plastic intake manifold unbolt off the TGV's easily and much shit connected to it?

Or can it be done without taking it off?

[wally09]

You don't have to take the intake manifold off. That was perrins claim. Although when your trying to put the bov return on you kinda wish it wasn't there, that or you had hands like a 10 year old. I did tmic, bov, Perrin pipe and cai in half a day. Winging it the whole time so you should be right

[lunchboxsti]

The only one that's different is that top spigot. Can't remember what it is. but from factory it has a formed 90 degree bend in it, this must be cut off so it can fit. Apart from that everything else fits up the same I'm pretty sure

So your saying you have to cut part of the perrin intake off to make it fit?

THe AVO dosnt need any thing modified.

[bass_straitener]

This thread is full of misinformation.

I had the Perrin intake fitted in December. The 3 inch one.

No modification required. It doesn't rub on anything. And all joins have an inner metal sleeve to ensure a good connection and clamping.

The new release is a prefect fit and easy to install and takes less than hour.

It also has an inner stainless wire skeleton two stop it being squishy. It doesn't go soft when heated.

The AVO is thinner walled and may go softer under heat. I examined both side by side and went Perrin.

I also personally know a number of people who have the Perrin and have had no issues with fitting. The engine cover goes back on with no problems either.

The older Perrin may have had issues. Al I know the one sold currently doesn't.

[Kekotic]

Well said Bruce.
I can also comment that the Perrin is very thick and doesn't compress, under heat that might change but I seriously doubt it.

[wally09]

Misinformation? Everything you just said was a repeat of me.
The inner rings DO NOT spread over the entire part, therefor when hot it does become flexible. How do I know? Because I own one. I did not say the whole thing collapses when hot and under vacuume I said it becomes squishy.

I fitted mine myself, took a little longer than an hour because i have never done it before.

Misinformation would be listening to someone that gets someone else to do there work and then explaining how to do it. At no point have I miss led the op here.

[wally09]

The only one that's different is that top spigot. Can't remember what it is. but from factory it has a formed 90 degree bend in it, this must be cut off so it can fit. Apart from that everything else fits up the same I'm pretty sure

So your saying you have to cut part of the perrin intake off to make it fit?

THe AVO dosnt need any thing modified.

No the perrin pipe does not need to be cut. The rubber breather hose that is supposed to connect to the top spigot does. As the instructions illustrate if you purchase it

[bass_straitener]

The only one that's different is that top spigot. Can't remember what it is. but from factory it has a formed 90 degree bend in it, this must be cut off so it can fit. Apart from that everything else fits up the same I'm pretty sure

Nothing needs to be cut off. You do not need a knife in your toolkit to install the Perrin.

The Perrin install vid does show a spigot being broken off the original intake to remove but this is not required. You can get your original one off without the need to break any part of it.

[bass_straitener]

Was interested in installing these aswell.

Does the plastic intake manifold unbolt off the TGV's easily and much shit connected to it?

Or can it be done without taking it off?

With the Perrin, the intake manifold does not need to come off.

[wally09]

Ok I apologize my post had a lack of specific information. The perrin turbo inlet pipe is well made an you DO NOT have to make ANY modifications to the pipe itself.

ALTHOUGH the positioning of the spigot above the BOV return is not the same as the factory. The factory pipe has a straight male hose fitting to which the breather hose is formed into a 90 degree bend to fit on to it. The Perrin pipe is supplied with male/male 90 degree fittings. So you have to cut the small amount of pipe which is bent because the fittings are already facing in that direction.

Sorry for poor grammar and sentence structure. I'm using my phone with opposite hand, kinda broke my arm today :/

[bass_straitener]

Ok I apologize my post had a lack of specific information. The perrin turbo inlet pipe is well made an you DO NOT have to make ANY modifications to the pipe itself.

ALTHOUGH the positioning of the spigot above the BOV return is not the same as the factory. The factory pipe has a straight male hose fitting to which the breather hose is formed into a 90 degree bend to fit on to it. The Perrin pipe is supplied with male/male 90 degree fittings. So you have to cut the small amount of pipe which is bent because the fittings are already facing in that direction.

Sorry for poor grammar and sentence structure. I'm using my phone with opposite hand, kinda broke my arm today :/

Sorry to hear about your broken hand.

Sorry the way your post read was ambiguous. I just did want lunchbox chopping up his new $300 inlet pipe. So thought I'd make it as clear as possible.

I've examined both intakes when buying and the Perrin is far superior.