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Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:16 pm
by dle
Hey guys just wondering if you guys could advise on what would be involved to change from twin scroll-equal length header to a single scroll-unequal length header set up on a preface lift 2.0l GT?

Would a set up from 07-09 spec b be direct bolt on?
I.e headers, turbo, up pipe, dump pipe

Or even from wrx series?

Obviously a tune would be involved afterwards but was just wondering if anything else was involved/complications.

Cheers,
Dave

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:20 pm
by zch91
Add TMIC to your list..

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:27 pm
by paggaz
Part are direct bolt on from 07-09 Lib GT and I believe also 08+ WRX (not sti)

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:39 pm
by dle
zch91 wrote:Add TMIC to your list..


Zach, the pre's had different TMIC to the spec b's because of the flange. Did you mean an aftermarket one? Is the stock TMIC from 2.0GT not able to cool the new turbo down?

Nathan, is there any clearance issues or complications if parts were sourced from either 07-09 spec b or 08+ wrx and fitted onto EJ20 engine?

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:41 pm
by zch91
I am under the impression the TMIC from the pre-fl isn't compatible with the post-fl and vice versa, hence I wouldn't imagine bolting up an post-face turbo (for example) would allow the pre-face tmic to fit properly..

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:04 pm
by dle
So from more online research about this, when removing the old turbo (vf38?) and swapping for a new turbo (ie vf46) This will mean the flange/short pipe will change therefore allowing/needing to change the spec b TMIC as well? If that's right then I think I understand it now.

Wondering if anybody else on the forum has done this exercise and can assist?

Appreciate the help

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:45 pm
by dr20t
Why would you downgrade to a vf46??

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:03 pm
by wilso_8948
Your on the right track. Get Dump, headers, turbo, TMIC. Look into getting a better single scroll turbo as well. Blouch or kinugawa. Also look at a set of ceramic coated equal length headers. Ill let you know how I go when I do my conversion. I also got a perrin inlet pipe aswell. Wrx 08+ parts will fit too

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:06 pm
by dle
dr20t wrote:Why would you downgrade to a vf46??


can't be that bad of a downgrade, if that?

from what i understand, twin scroll / equal length set up has faster spool and all but the spec b's and wrx's are all single scroll set ups? im thinking more peak power and even if there is more lag due to the single scroll, a good tune could rectify that?

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:10 pm
by dr20t
Fair enough

Good luck with the conversion.

Mick

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:13 pm
by dle
wilso_8948 wrote:Your on the right track. Get Dump, headers, turbo, TMIC. Look into getting a better single scroll turbo as well. Blouch or kinugawa. Also look at a set of ceramic coated equal length headers. Ill let you know how I go when I do my conversion. I also got a perrin inlet pipe aswell. Wrx 08+ parts will fit too


intriguing ! keep me posted

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:28 pm
by JMlegacy
Whatever happened to this endeavor?

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:51 pm
by dle
$$$$

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Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:22 pm
by PSISUBI
dle wrote:Hey guys just wondering if you guys could advise on what would be involved to change from twin scroll-equal length header to a single scroll-unequal length header set up on a preface lift 2.0l GT?

Would a set up from 07-09 spec b be direct bolt on?
I.e headers, turbo, up pipe, dump pipe

Or even from wrx series?

Obviously a tune would be involved afterwards but was just wondering if anything else was involved/complications.

Cheers,
Dave


Dave,

Check out my topic in this section, I am also thinking of the same and there's a lot of useful info that members have posted... but you would need headers and up pipe from 2.5 GT as a minimum, and would also suggest a VF52 as well.

Re: Single scroll turbo upgrade

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:57 pm
by dle
Yep, pretty much need headers up pipe, TMIC and dump pipe to do the conversion. Have my eyes on a VF52 but can't afford the conversion at the moment. Will have to see towards the end of the year.

Thanks for the help guys