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Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:36 pm
by hamish_023
I read an interesting article in a magazine today about twinscroll turbo's. Alot of member's already know about how they work and the differences but i'm sure some of you dont.

So my question after reading is: Why would the facelift gen4 (07-09) go back to unequal headers and a single scroll turbo, when all this R&D went into making something that worked well with the pre-facelift (04-06)? Surely it would have been more cost effective to change to design, then to continue producing the twin scroll, equal length headers. It even proves that the jump from (04-06) to (07-09) lost power and efficiency (190 - 184KW and reported an increase in L/100KM), yes gained a bit of torque but that expected when increasing the capacity 25%? (comparing manual - manual FYI). Should they have made the 2.5T twin scroll and equal length headers and pointed to 200KW?



A Look At Twin Scroll Turbo System Design

From the May, 2009 issue of Modified Mag
By David Pratte



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Back in the day, most aftermarket and factory turbocharger systems featured simple log-style exhaust manifolds. But just like on normally aspirated engines, where exhaust manifold design has become recognized as a critical element to maximizing horsepower and torque output, there has been increasing attention paid to turbocharger and turbo manifold design. Divided or "twin-scroll" turbos and manifolds have emerged as the preferred design of many of the top tuners and even OEMs, showing up on high-performance models like the Mitsubishi EVO, Pontiac Solstice GXP and JDM Impreza STI. But what exactly are the differences between single-scroll (or constant pressure) turbo systems and twin-scroll (or two-pulse) turbo systems and how do these design differences impact overall engine performance?

Single-scroll systems have been in use for a long time, and for good reason. These systems are generally compact, inexpensive and extremely durable under the high heat they're exposed to. So from a simplicity of design, packaging and reliability standpoint, a single-scroll, constant-pressure turbo system is quite appealing-especially to the OEMs that must consider more than just power production. Although log-style or simple unequal-length turbo manifolds used by the OEMs can be tweaked for improved performance or replaced by a more sophisticated equal-length aftermarket manifold, this doesn't change the fact that there's a single exhaust gas inlet to the turbo's "hot side" turbine (which powers the "cold side" compressor, force feeding a denser and therefore more oxygen-rich air charge into the combustion chamber from the intake side). Because of this design limitation, single-scroll systems are not particularly efficient at low engine speeds or high loads. This decreased turbine efficiency contributes to turbo lag, something we've all probably experienced while driving a stock turbocharged vehicle.

One of the biggest limitations of most factory single-scroll turbo system is the restrictive nature of its log or compact unequal-length exhaust manifold. Keep in mind, the purpose of this manifold isn't just to channel exhaust gases to the turbocharger's turbine wheel; the manifold must be designed to allow exhaust gases to exit the combustion chamber of each cylinder quickly and efficiently. Also keep in mind that these exhaust gases do not flow in a smooth stream because the gas exits each cylinder based on the engine's firing sequence, resulting in distinct exhaust gas pulses. Next time you fire up your car, place your hand lightly over the exhaust tip (before it gets hot!) and you will feel these pulses. With a log-style or compact OE-style, unequal-length runner exhaust manifold like you'll find on SR20DET or USDM STI engines, the pulse from one cylinder can interfere with subsequent exhaust gas pulses as they enter the manifold from the other cylinders, inhibiting scavenging (where the high-pressure pulse draws the lower pressure gases behind it out of the combustion chamber with it) and increasing reversion (where exhaust gas flow is disturbed so much that its direction of travel reverses and pollutes the combustion chambers with hot exhaust gases). The trapped and wasted kinetic exhaust gas energy from poor scavenging and too much reversion also means higher combustion and exhaust gas temperatures, necessitating less aggressive ignition timing and reduced valve overlap as well as richer air/fuel mixtures (and higher NOx emissions).

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Twin-scroll turbo system design addresses many of the shortcomings of single-scroll turbo systems by separating those cylinders whose exhaust gas pulses interfere with each other. Similar in concept to pairing cylinders on race headers for normally aspirated engines, twin-scroll design pairs cylinders to one side of the turbine inlet such that the kinetic energy from the exhaust gases is recovered more efficiently by the turbine. For example, if a four-cylinder engine's firing sequence is 1-3-4-2, cylinder 1 is ending its expansion stroke and opening its exhaust valves while cylinder 2 still has its exhaust valves open (while in its overlap period, where both the intake and exhaust valves are partially open at the same time). In a single-scroll or undivided manifold, the exhaust gas pressure pulse from cylinder 1 is therefore going to interfere with cylinder 2's ability to expel its exhaust gases, rather than delivering it undisturbed to the turbo's turbine the way a twin-scroll system allows.

The result of the superior scavenging effect from a twin-scroll design is better pressure distribution in the exhaust ports and more efficient delivery of exhaust gas energy to the turbocharger's turbine. This in turn allows greater valve overlap, resulting in an improved quality and quantity of the air charge entering each cylinder. In fact, with more valve overlap, the scavenging effect of the exhaust flow can literally draw more air in on the intake side while drawing out the last of the low-pressure exhaust gases, helping pack each cylinder with a denser and purer air charge. And as we all know, a denser and purer air charge means stronger combustion and more power, and more power is good!

But the benefits of twin-scroll design don't end there. With its greater volumetric efficiency and stronger scavenging effect, higher ignition delay can be used, which helps keep peak temperature in the cylinders down. Since cooler cylinder temperatures and lower exhaust gas temperatures allows for a leaner air/fuel ratio, twin-scroll turbo design has been shown to increase turbine efficiency by 7-8 percent and result in fuel efficiency improvements as high as 5 percent.

Combine these benefits with a well-engineered tubular equal-length manifold and the design strengths of a twin-scroll approach can pay even bigger dividends. "Equal length" simply refers to the length of the primary exhaust manifold tubes or runners that the cylinder head exhaust ports breath out into, which should ideally be of equal length before merging at a narrow angle at the collector so that the gases flow smoothly together into the turbine inlet. This helps maintain exhaust gas pulse energy, resulting in better boost response and overall higher turbo efficiency.


Designing a high-performance twin-scroll tubular manifold like those available from top tuners like Full-Race is no simple task. Fitting equal-length primaries into the tight confines of a turbocharged car's engine bay while maintaining proper radius bends and strong exhaust gas flow characteristics is a serious design challenge. Determining the best length and diameter of the primaries and angle of the merge collector also requires a lot of R&D, as does choosing the best wall thickness and material for the tubing itself. That's where Full-Race's team of highly educated mechanical engineers and years of constant refinement of their designs comes into play. According to Geoff at Full-Race, "Because of the increased turbine efficiency found in twin-scroll systems, twin-scroll manifolds can often use a smaller runner than a single-scroll design. However, due to the complex shape of the runners and the requirement for a second wastegate and dumptube (one for each side of the divided turbine) there's more mass and more parts which adds expense and complexity. Plus, twin-scroll turbos are physically larger than their single-scroll equivalents, so it's more difficult to make them fit our cramped engine bays." Overcoming these challenges means developing extremely robust manifolds that make smart use of the available space, something Full-Race does with the help of computer programs like SolidWorks and other proprietary processes.

All this hard work does translate to serious performance gains in the power-delivery department, particularly at spool-up and peak torque where sophisticated tubular twin-scroll manifolds properly matched to a twin-scroll turbo deliver superior airflow to single-scroll or OE twin-scroll designs. According to Geoff, "Our twin-scroll turbo kits have a higher average cylinder pressure and turbine efficiency, while single-scroll systems tend to have a higher peak cylinder pressure and exhaust backpressure. We have found the twin-scroll systems have higher backpressure at low rpm (which is good for turbo spool-up) and lower backpressure at high rpm (which is good for top-end performance). On the other hand, single-scroll systems have lower backpressure at low rpm (bad for spool-up) and higher backpressure at high rpm (which hurts top-end performance)." In order to realize the full benefit of a top-shelf twin-scroll system like one of Full-Race's, the manifold design and A/R ratio of the turbo must be spot-on, so it's best to get the help of a professional when choosing a turbo for this type of system.

It's certainly possible to generate huge power and great high-rpm performance with a single-scroll turbo system. There are plenty of examples of very high-horsepower, single-scroll turbocharged engines out there, but with single-scroll systems spool-up and response are much slower than with a twin-scroll design, yet twin-scroll systems still provide excellent top end performance. Although switching from single-scroll to twin-scroll can be expensive, for hard-core boost junkies who want much faster throttle response without giving up any top end, there is no better solution. With the added benefits of higher turbine efficiency, lower cylinder temps and EGTs which allow more aggressive timing and fuel mapping, and the freedom to run more overlap,twin-scroll turbo system design is really a perfect match for the high specific output engines featured in many of our favorite sport compact machines.

Article can also be found here: http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-0906- ... index.html

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:46 am
by Gambit
God article, spewing i brought a single scroll equal length manifold, had i been more informed i would in hindsight have gone for a twin scroll setup. Oh well.. :roll:

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:35 am
by tangcla
Gambit wrote:God article, spewing i brought a single scroll equal length manifold, had i been more informed i would in hindsight have gone for a twin scroll setup. Oh well.. :roll:

I think not really. You would have had to get a new twin-scroll turbo if you took the red pill.

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:46 am
by Kevlar GT
Perfect timing, I was asking my mechanic about twin scrolls yesterday. He explained it to me in the dumbed down version which was good but cobining the basic overview I got with what you posted it makes more sense now.

:wink:

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:12 am
by Gambit
tangcla wrote:
Gambit wrote:God article, spewing i brought a single scroll equal length manifold, had i been more informed i would in hindsight have gone for a twin scroll setup. Oh well.. :roll:

I think not really. You would have had to get a new twin-scroll turbo if you took the red pill.


Yeah realise that i am about to buy a single scroll billet wheel Td06SL2-20g, i could have brought a twin scroll instead ! :shock:
Anyhow should still make decent power single scroll, in combination with a few other mods, that has me giddy with excitement. :D

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:19 am
by tangcla
Yeah well if you were going to buy a new turbo anyway... :P

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:01 am
by UrbanGTB
Its all about emissions

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:04 pm
by [[d a n n y]]
so a good upgrade will be using a evo turbo? (TD05)

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:27 pm
by blacktop™
Wow great article...maybe subaru did take a backwards step with the face lifted models?

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:12 pm
by KOi_STi
i was actually thinking about this the other day...but more so after reading a separate article again about twin scroll and how BMW has just gone from single to twin on some of their turbo models...and all the standard marketing stuff from the BMW dept. about improved efficiency, effectiveness, spool up, etc...etc...

interesting reading and having owned a pre and now a post facelift...i can appreciate both sides of the fence...

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:43 pm
by Jimmy S
Gambit wrote:
tangcla wrote:
Gambit wrote:God article, spewing i brought a single scroll equal length manifold, had i been more informed i would in hindsight have gone for a twin scroll setup. Oh well.. :roll:

I think not really. You would have had to get a new twin-scroll turbo if you took the red pill.


Yeah realise that i am about to buy a single scroll billet wheel Td06SL2-20g, i could have brought a twin scroll instead ! :shock:
Anyhow should still make decent power single scroll, in combination with a few other mods, that has me giddy with excitement. :D


I did the research on that... As far as I can find out, there is no twin scroll turbo available with a TD06 sized compressor...

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:35 pm
by Nalnoc
No doubt it's a brilliant feat of engineering but as mentioned in the article, it comes at a hefty cost in the R&D department. The % gains in both fuel ecconomy and turbine efficiency are impressive, but perhaps not impressive enough to justify the R&D cost in the eyes of Subaru.

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:48 pm
by hamish_023
The R&D was already done, Ie prefacelift.

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:40 pm
by Nalnoc
yeah, I didn't think of that. Could be because the twin-scroll units and equal length headers are more expensive to produce, who knows.

But we will soon find out how a twin scroll unit goes on a 2.5L. Shagged a big end bearing in my 2.0L '04 GT a bit over a month back, and my engine builder has been finding it difficult to get me a new crankshaft. So he's covering the extra cost of going to a EJ257 short motor. Will just need a re-tune because of the change in comp ratio, among other things. I'll keep you guys posted, hopefully I'll get her back next week :D

Re: Twin scroll turbos

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:04 pm
by Gambit
Nainoc, how much you paying, i am thinking of going semi closed deck EJ257 short block with forgies, big coin.. $3k~